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Old 04-05-2013, 12:41 PM
 
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Well well well! Kind of blows gun control theory now doesn't it. Then compare it to Chicago and their gun laws and crime.

CONCORD, N.H. —As the debate over gun control rages in Washington and across the country, a look at New Hampshire's laws shows that the state has a mostly hands-off approach.

The "AR" does not stand for "assault rifle." It is the initials of the company that first made the gun.

To some, the AR-15 looks like a military assault weapon, but the National Shooting Sports Foundation calls it a civilian sporting rifle popular with hunters.

NH has fewer gun-control laws than other states | Special Reports - WMUR Home



Gun Crime In New Hampshire Is Well Below National Average

According to the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting Program, New Hampshire's rate of violent crime in 2011 was 188 per 100,000 people, the third-lowest in the country, behind Maine And Vermont. Only Hawaii had a lower murder rate than the Granite State's 1.3 per 100,000.

Gun Crime In New Hampshire Is Well Below National Average | New Hampshire Public Radio




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Old 04-05-2013, 03:55 PM
 
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Well well well! Kind of blows gun control theory now doesn't it. Then compare it to Chicago and their gun laws and crime.

CONCORD, N.H. —As the debate over gun control rages in Washington and across the country, a look at New Hampshire's laws shows that the state has a mostly hands-off approach.

The "AR" does not stand for "assault rifle." It is the initials of the company that first made the gun.

To some, the AR-15 looks like a military assault weapon, but the National Shooting Sports Foundation calls it a civilian sporting rifle popular with hunters.

NH has fewer gun-control laws than other states | Special Reports - WMUR Home



Gun Crime In New Hampshire Is Well Below National Average

According to the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting Program, New Hampshire's rate of violent crime in 2011 was 188 per 100,000 people, the third-lowest in the country, behind Maine And Vermont. Only Hawaii had a lower murder rate than the Granite State's 1.3 per 100,000.

Gun Crime In New Hampshire Is Well Below National Average | New Hampshire Public Radio




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the liberals that hate firearms dont like to mention those facts. because it will show that they are nothing but liars and like passing their bogus data.
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Old 04-05-2013, 04:46 PM
 
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Well well well! Kind of blows gun control theory now doesn't it. Then compare it to Chicago and their gun laws and crime.

CONCORD, N.H. —As the debate over gun control rages in Washington and across the country, a look at New Hampshire's laws shows that the state has a mostly hands-off approach.

The "AR" does not stand for "assault rifle." It is the initials of the company that first made the gun.

To some, the AR-15 looks like a military assault weapon, but the National Shooting Sports Foundation calls it a civilian sporting rifle popular with hunters.

NH has fewer gun-control laws than other states | Special Reports - WMUR Home



Gun Crime In New Hampshire Is Well Below National Average

According to the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting Program, New Hampshire's rate of violent crime in 2011 was 188 per 100,000 people, the third-lowest in the country, behind Maine And Vermont. Only Hawaii had a lower murder rate than the Granite State's 1.3 per 100,000.

Gun Crime In New Hampshire Is Well Below National Average | New Hampshire Public Radio




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Oh yes, that theory is blown to hell because of a teensy little state with a population scattered around the mountains and no cities larger than the average metropolitan 4-block area.

Damn. How could we all have missed that?
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Old 04-05-2013, 04:47 PM
 
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Are we still going on about gun control? Geez, don't you guys have anything else to talk about? No, guess not, the news cycle must be slow again. We need another tsunami, that way we can all talk about how we can go about banning them from existence
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Old 04-05-2013, 04:48 PM
 
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Oh yes, that theory is blown to hell because of a teensy little state with a population scattered around the mountains and no cities larger than the average metropolitan 4-block area.

Damn. How could we all have missed that?
All those guns should have turned everyone into crazy kids ring lunatics according to you and ellemint. It is amazing that it can be so peaceful in NH or the many other states with little gun control.
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Old 04-05-2013, 04:51 PM
 
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Oh yes, that theory is blown to hell because of a teensy little state with a population scattered around the mountains and no cities larger than the average metropolitan 4-block area.

Damn. How could we all have missed that?


yep, goes to show from what you said that most crime including gun crime happens in urban areas that are more likely to be democratic and have more gun control laws than cities that have less gun control.
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Old 04-05-2013, 05:05 PM
 
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All those guns should have turned everyone into crazy kids ring lunatics according to you and ellemint. It is amazing that it can be so peaceful in NH or the many other states with little gun control.
As usual, you missed the point.

Half the people in that state can't even see their neighbors' houses, let alone organize gangs or crime of any kind.

That tends to keep the gun crime rate down.

Gun crimes of other kinds still happen just like anywhere else. Of course you're not interested in those, because it doesn't fit your agenda.

Conway lawsuit claims gun owner liable for murders committed by gun thief | New Hampshire NEWS07

New Hampshire rattled by period of violence - The Boston Globe

Then, of course, there's the fact that there is a murder, it's almost always wins gun..


Of course, being a small, lightly populated state means other stuff happens that 's not good.

10 % of illegal guns seized in neighboring MA come from NH.
Gun Deaths Down Among NH Children, But NH Guns Migrating South

So yes, NH is a great place to be if you're worried about gang violence. Otherwise, not so much. Guns are the weapon of choice when you decide to kill someone!
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Old 04-05-2013, 05:14 PM
 
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yep, goes to show from what you said that most crime including gun crime happens in urban areas that are more likely to be democratic and have more gun control laws than cities that have less gun control.
So how do you explain the fact that Hawaii, which is ultra-liberal and mostly urban and has strict gun control laws, is even safer than New Hampshire is?
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Old 04-05-2013, 05:14 PM
 
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As usual, you missed the point.

Half the people in that state can't even see their neighbors' houses, let alone organize gangs or crime of any kind.

That tends to keep the gun crime rate down.

Gun crimes of other kinds still happen just like anywhere else. Of course you're not interested in those, because it doesn't fit your agenda.

Conway lawsuit claims gun owner liable for murders committed by gun thief | New Hampshire NEWS07

New Hampshire rattled by period of violence - The Boston Globe

Then, of course, there's the fact that there is a murder, it's almost always wins gun..


Of course, being a small, lightly populated state means other stuff happens that 's not good.

10 % of illegal guns seized in neighboring MA come from NH.
Gun Deaths Down Among NH Children, But NH Guns Migrating South

So yes, NH is a great place to be if you're worried about gang violence. Otherwise, not so much. Guns are the weapon of choice when you decide to kill someone!
Guns are the weapon of choice when you need to protect yourself or your family.
As is done by an estimated 2 million gun owners ever year.
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A homeowner in Maypearl, Texas was at home watching TV when she heard a suspicious noise at the door. When she got up to investigate, the woman spotted one of a pair of armed criminals trying to get into her home. The homeowner then went find her husband and retrieve a gun. The husband was on another part of the property, but once he heard of the intrusion he went inside the house and retrieved a rifle. A gun battle ensued, with the husband and wife firing at the criminals and the criminals returning fire. The homeowners managed to strike one of the home invaders in the foot, while the other fled in a pickup truck to a nearby field. After succumbing to the armed resistance, both criminals took their own lives. Following the incident, Lt. James Saulter of the Ellis County Sheriff’s Department told local media, “Our sheriff is always letting homeowners know to arm themselves. This is one of the reasons why… Sometimes it takes a while for us to get out this far, and they have to take care of themselves.”
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A cab driver was driving a passenger in Jericho, N.Y. when the passenger asked the cabbie how much money he was carrying and directed him to a parking lot. Suspicious, the cabbie parked and ran from the car while trying to call 911. The criminal gave chase, and repeatedly hit the cabbie with an object. The cabbie, authorized to carry as a former law enforcement officer, responded by drawing a pistol and firing at the robber, striking him in the leg. When police arrived, the criminal and the cab driver were taken to a local hospital; neither had life-threatening injuries.
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As Derek LeBlanc was leaving his home for work at 5 a.m. he noticed the rear window of his truck was smashed and that a criminal was inside. LeBlanc tackled the burglar, and shouted to his girlfriend, who was still inside the home, for help. The girlfriend, Heidi Lusk, retrieved a shotgun and phone, and rushed to LeBlanc’s aid. Together the couple detained the criminal until police could arrive. While recalling the incident to local media, LeBlanc stated, “You never know what you’re going to do until it happens, but I sure as hell wasn’t going to be a victim.”
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Old 04-05-2013, 05:19 PM
 
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Aside from the fact that you're completely off topic, do explain to me the need for multiple guns, which seems to be the standard here on CD. Or at least to hear you manly men bragging about it. How many guns does it take to kill an intruder?
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