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View Poll Results: Do you believe that carbon dioxide and other gases are leading to global warming?
Yes 24 25.81%
No 59 63.44%
Not sure 10 10.75%
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Old 07-31-2011, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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Only Americans ignore the worlds research in this. Somehow they think everyone is making it up. When we in our life times have seen average temperature increases that should take thousands of years but are only taking a decade.

Glaciers are receding at rates never seen before. Our country has seen the most dramatic weather anomalies and yet Americans can say...."nope its not real"... Well I'm thankful the rest of the world has a lick of sense and are taking the right steps.
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Old 07-31-2011, 08:30 PM
 
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Only Americans ignore the worlds research in this. Somehow they think everyone is making it up. When we in our life times have seen average temperature increases that should take thousands of years but are only taking a decade.

Glaciers are receding at rates never seen before. Our country has seen the most dramatic weather anomalies and yet Americans can say...."nope its not real"... Well I'm thankful the rest of the world has a lick of sense and are taking the right steps.
And yet Kilimanjaro was debunked, polar cap sea ice is increasing, the scientist that Al Gore based his science fiction movie on is being grilled and admitted that his numbers and, ultimately, his methodology were sloppy during the interview, and now NASA and the University of Alabama-Huntsville confirm that there's a net loss of heat from the atmosphere.

I guess it's true in the topsy-turvy world that liberals live in up is down, down is up, cooling is warming, warming is warming, more ice means more warming, net heat loss means heat buildup, etc.
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Old 07-31-2011, 08:31 PM
 
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Belief? 100% of the country can believe something, but that doesn't change reality.
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Old 07-31-2011, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Sorry, I am not going to go for an article with a title like that. No scientist would call global warming concerns alarmist. It is a partisan screed.
Alarmism is not needed. The effects of greenhouse gases on climate are facts. The subtext of this article is that if anything is different from what is in models, the general facts no longer apply. That is just not true.
I think that some of those scientists you like so well are very busy right now working on the next name for the thing they changed from global warming to climate change just because of NASA. What do you suppose they will call it the next time around?
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Old 07-31-2011, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Only Americans ignore the worlds research in this. Somehow they think everyone is making it up. When we in our life times have seen average temperature increases that should take thousands of years but are only taking a decade.

Glaciers are receding at rates never seen before. Our country has seen the most dramatic weather anomalies and yet Americans can say...."nope its not real"... Well I'm thankful the rest of the world has a lick of sense and are taking the right steps.

I see you are drinking Al Gore's Koolaid again......
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Old 07-31-2011, 08:33 PM
 
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I think that some of those scientists you like so well are very busy right now working on the next name for the thing they changed from global warming to climate change just because of NASA. What do you suppose they will call it the next time around?
Roy, I believe they are currently trying to cook some numbers and pull some theories out of their rears and call it ocean acidification. Last year I suspected the alarmists will try the ocean acidification scare in case global warming/climate change/man-made climate change/anthropomorphic global warming/climate catastrophe falls on its knees and shatters and now this year I've seen alarmist posts on here talking about acidification of oceans (by way of CO2) and how it'll contribute to catastrophe
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Old 07-31-2011, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Only Americans ignore the worlds research in this. Somehow they think everyone is making it up. When we in our life times have seen average temperature increases that should take thousands of years but are only taking a decade.

Glaciers are receding at rates never seen before. Our country has seen the most dramatic weather anomalies and yet Americans can say...."nope its not real"... Well I'm thankful the rest of the world has a lick of sense and are taking the right steps.
Yep. Years ago Algore came in with that thing they worked up in Japan that required the US to cut its use of coal but allowed China and India to go ahead expanding their use of coal. The rest of the world does include China and India, doesn't it?
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Old 07-31-2011, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Sorry, gang, it's Forbes magazine, and I tend to not take seriously "news" articles that refer to climatologists as "alarmists".

Is that because you cannot refute their facts?
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Old 07-31-2011, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Only Americans ignore the worlds research in this. Somehow they think everyone is making it up. When we in our life times have seen average temperature increases that should take thousands of years but are only taking a decade.

Glaciers are receding at rates never seen before. Our country has seen the most dramatic weather anomalies and yet Americans can say...."nope its not real"... Well I'm thankful the rest of the world has a lick of sense and are taking the right steps.
Well, that's kinda like when the scientific community convinced the world that the earth was flat........

How did that work out for the esteemed scientists?
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Old 07-31-2011, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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The idea that human activity has caused and is causing climate changes is opposed by two different general groups of people:

- The business wing opposes this idea because it implies that businesses should do something other than maximize the amount of money coming in. They know full well what climate change is doing, but anything resembling corporate responsibility is anathema to the philosophy of free market over all. Combating climate change would mean combating the culture of needless consumption and expansion that Capitalism requires in order to fulfill its purpose of making the rich richer.

- Religious folks oppose the idea on the grounds of an expanded idea of manifest destiny. God put us here to be fruitful and multiply, and implying that we should maybe check ourselves or exercise restraint goes against that idea. Besides, the Rapture is coming any day now anyway. They also oppose climate change out of the general "culture war" ideals of simply opposing science in general.
Lol, you forgot to mention the science doesn't support it either. My guess is you haven't seen the recent NASA report.
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