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Old 08-03-2011, 08:50 AM
 
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You guys. We all seemed to have jumped to conclusions. The Super Committee is NOT applicable to all legislation in Congress. It just applies to cutting and taxation as regards the National Debt.
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Old 08-03-2011, 09:01 AM
 
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You guys. We all seemed to have jumped to conclusions. The Super Committee is NOT applicable to all legislation in Congress. It just applies to cutting and taxation as regards the National Debt.
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Old 08-03-2011, 09:06 AM
 
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You guys. We all seemed to have jumped to conclusions. The Super Committee is NOT applicable to all legislation in Congress. It just applies to cutting and taxation as regards the National Debt.
that isn't what other news sources are saying. They are saying it applies to Debt ceiling increases, not "cutting and taxation as regards the national debt."
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Old 08-03-2011, 09:08 AM
 
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What it is for and what it eventually does is two different things. As I said on a previous post it is unconstitutional to begin with so what makes you think they will limit anything they do? What will limit them? NOTHING.
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Old 08-03-2011, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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What it is for and what it eventually does is two different things. As I said on a previous post it is unconstitutional to begin with so what makes you think they will limit anything they do? What will limit them? NOTHING.
Especially when they get to pick who is on this super committee.
At least it gives a break to the lobbyists..they only have 12 to kiss up to and not the entire Congress.
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Old 08-03-2011, 09:09 AM
 
Location: SC
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Statement of Opposition to S. 365 "Budget Control Act of 2011" - Auburn Journal (http://my.auburnjournal.com/detail/184617.html - broken link)

Here is a little more thoroughly researched article and note this is not the first time these panels have been used and NOTHING is said about THIS panel being omnipotent. Remember there are a lot of average reporters out there who are too lazy to do their homework and just want to sensationalize everything to increase readership. I suggest people read the bill itself called S 365 Budget control Act of 2011:

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Much of the Budget Control Act of 2011 depends on a bipartisan committee that is charged with the responsibility to cut the deficit, but not necessarily to cut spending, by $1.5 trillion. These are two very different things.



The 12-member committee is to be appointed by Congressional leaders, evenly divided between Democrats and Republicans and between the House and the Senate. Its recommendations on deficit reduction will be decided by majority vote and put to both houses for approval or rejection. Absent adoption of a balanced budget amendment, the second tranche of debt limit increase depends on enactment of its recommendations.
There is little reason to be optimistic of its success.



First, although the committee’s formal goal is $1.5 trillion in deficit reduction, the law only requires it to reduce the deficit by $1.2 trillion in order to avoid sequestration and trigger a $1.2 trillion debt limit increase.
Second, this is not a new concept. Since 1982, there have been 17 “bipartisan†commissions charged with reducing federal spending or borrowing. As evidenced by the current crisis, all 17 have failed. The Budget Control Act of 2011 heavily relies on the 18th such panel actually succeeding.



This particular panel is made up exclusively of a bipartisan group of current members of Congress. It invites the question, “If a bipartisan group of current members of Congress (which we often call, ‘the Congress’) can’t agree to reduce spending to sustainable levels at this critical moment in our history, why would we place far greater confidence in the proposed bipartisan panel of – wait for it – current members of Congress?â€



Third, the panel is not responsible for reducing spending, but rather for reducing the deficit. Tax increases may also reduce deficits (while doing significant economic damage). Since the committee is to be evenly divided between Democrats and Republicans, it would take only one Republican to place a massive tax increase on the House and Senate floors. As the deadline approaches and yet another debt crisis looms, the pressure on that one Republican will be enormous, and if history is any indication, irresistible.
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Old 08-03-2011, 09:11 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Default Super Committee in Congress just used for Debt cuts and spending

For now. These things have a way of morphing.

Remember that line about truth?
"Truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!"

Welllll we don't get much of the second and third part of that line,
when it comes to our congress.
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Old 08-03-2011, 09:12 AM
 
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Especially when they get to pick who is on this super committee.
At least it gives a break to the lobbyists..they only have 12 to kiss up to and not the entire Congress.
Why not take this super committee and make a super duper committee of just two, one from each party?? Just send the rest of congress home.
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Old 08-03-2011, 09:14 AM
 
Location: SC
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Here is a link to the full text of the bill.
Read The Bill: S. 365 - GovTrack.us

Read Title IV Establishment of Joint Committee. You'll see the purpose of the committee is to make recommendations regarding cuts.
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Old 08-03-2011, 09:24 AM
 
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that isn't what other news sources are saying. They are saying it applies to Debt ceiling increases, not "cutting and taxation as regards the national debt."
Well the point is it does not change the way ALL legislation will be created from now on. This committee is just responsible for the task described in the bill and other committees like this have been used since 1987.
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