Economy on the edge of collapse, do you really think it's a good idea to cut 2.5 trillion in spending? (state, support)

[northstar22]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

spending needs to be cut back to 2001 spending levels..all else is a failure

the liberals will never understand we have a spending problem

the teaparty failed to correct the errors of the liberals

Are you factoring in inflation when you talk about 2001 spending levels? Also, keep in mind that we weren't fighting three wars in 2001 (before 9/11).

Also, I'm not a liberal. Why do some conservatives assume that anyone who opposes their views is liberal?

[Marv101]

The problem is that you can't build anything of substantial worth to millions of citizens (think airports) due to the Democrats and their environmental wackos.

Most of out ten largest cities could use new airports, but the 2-4 years required for an EIR is an insane policy, and a definite job-killing and economy crippling piece of legislative insanity.

The Democrats insistence that 'shovel-ready' jobs would invigorate our economy turned out to be another lie, since there's no such thing in this country, although there are millions of them overseas at all salary levels.

[sacramento916]

I think we should cut more money, but they are not being cut in the right places. Instead of cutting more on the economic stimulus front, we need to be cutting our military expenditures which are through the roof.

[AONE]

Originally Posted by Mircea

Oh, talking out of both sides of your neck.

You just whined about cutting Social Security and pensions, and yet here you are proposing to cut Social Security and pensions.
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btw it is talking out of your mouth..one's neck does not talk..

while there was much tripe to focus on in your rant lets just take this one point...

I am not cutting SS at all nor am I affecting the payments to anyone... I am making a change in the entitlement so that a system based on people being dead by 70 can have a hope. With them living to 80 you must change the ages of people eligible. in order to counter act the longer life. this is not a novel approach to the problem.

Disallowing early retirement will change the payouts of future retirees. this is a 7.5 year increase. and 5 years in general. those changes will eliminate the funding issues for SS.

Did anyone's payment change? no.
If they are getting it now they will continue. if they are 61 and planned on retiring at 62.5 now they have to wait until 70

I could refute every point you made but I expect most can see what a poor argument they are...

[texdav]

I think that 4 trillion over ten years is the minimum really.But it has to include the bif 3 that is the real problem in growth;that being medicare;ss and medicaid.SS will be the easiest to reform.mediacre and medicaid are the tought ones.We also need to reform the tax code to simplify;broaden the base which will allow lower rates.Germany reduced government spending and it's became the model in europe as we have seen.

[4sankofa]

[quote pghquest;

Why dont you list some of these imaginary regulations that were removed. I'll wait

Just a few

Banking and Savings n Loan regulations(oops no more savings n loans)
Communications regulations
Utilities regulations
FDA regulations

The interesting thing is years ago - the word was deregulating business is good for the consumer - but what has happen is that the consumer is spending more and often gets crappy services while the company has made record profits.

[janelle144]

You think I can convince my hubby to let me spend ten thousand more when we are about to declare backrupcy? Makes about as much sense to say the government needs to spend more when we don't have any money left.

[harborlady]

Originally Posted by Majin

Hard right conservatives, do you think it's really a good idea to cut 2.5 trillion out of the economy? Or do you think its not good enough, that we should cut even more, and that will help the economy?

I can't vote on this poll, and it's pointless for anyone to discuss. A think tank decided exactly which cliff this country would be driving off, at what time, and who would be the victor (hint hint, not we the people). To think of this whole debacle as anything less than financial warfare and betrayal from within is naive.

You could poll the think tank, or just listen to the mutt and jeff tea party morons regurgitating propaganda. They're the mouthpiece for what the think tank wants. You decide if think tank has any place here, because the rest of this thread isn't going to accomplish anything. These decisions have already been made by people who may not even be American citizens.

[harborlady]

Originally Posted by northstar22

Also, I'm not a liberal. Why do some conservatives assume that anyone who opposes their views is liberal?

Because they have no identity at all if they have no one to hate, so they hate everyone. Make sense now?

[BMW3series]

Cutting spending will in no way help the economy, virtually every economist and analyst agrees with that statement. In fact, a deep cut in spending will actually hurt the economy in the short-term. Our deficit does need to be reduced, but boosting the economy and cutting our deficit are two different things.