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Yes that would be called a gun which I believe college cops should have. However, when someone uses a gun that they have to think seriously about it, while "non-lethal" tasers are used almost as a first choice solution.
The job of cops is to protect and serve, and to say the kid deserved it is absurd. None of the crimes used were equivalent to the death sentence. There is a reason more and more police departments are suspending use of the device and college campuses should be the first.
There is way too much policing of college students on campus by both administration (who often want to force schools into becoming intellectual, liberal utopias) and religious conservatives who believe it's their place to tell people what to do with their lives.
I described earlier in the thread other devices that similar effects as tasers but much lower chance of death.
When I get a speeding ticket I do not get mad at the cop, because he is treating me in a way that I expect. If I speed and get caught I expect to get a ticket.
well you are unusual in that respect. most people i know get mad at the cop for doing their job.
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This kid did not deserve to die. Absolutely not.
i agree that the kid did not deserve to die, however he would be alive today if he had just followed the cops order to back off.
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Many people on here are more or less saying the kids death is justified simply because he didn't follow orders or is an acceptable unintended consequence
Which is funny cause that excuse is used by all sorts of people to oppress.
The cop shot the kid in the chest, which the makers of taser say not to do, and the kid died.
first off cops, like the military and others being taught to shoot, are trained to aim for center mass. it is hard to pull something that feels like a lightweight firearm, and aim for a leg.
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dont forget the cop is going to carry the guilt of having someone die as a result of his actions for the rest of his life. unless you have taken a life, you have no idea how that can weigh on your mind, and for how long. but before we decide he needs to be demoted or fired, how about we let the investigation take its course. it may come out that he was in fact justified in taking the action he did. if he was not justified in taking the action he did, the he will be punished according to department regulations. and he still faces a possible civil suit against him by the kids family. but until ALL the facts are known, we can bluster all we want about how bad this cop or kid is/was, but it means NOTHING right now.
I'm not arguing against tasers. I fully support the 2nd ammendment, have no problem with concealed carry etc. I thouht the cop was in the right who shot the person that started the Cininnati riots 10ish years ago.
However, I'm arguing that college police officers should not be carrying tasers. It allows for lazy policing because people believe it to be non-lethal when at least 35 people a year since 2001 have died from taser incidents. There are obviously going to be a number of drunken incidents on a college campus except for places like BYU.
When you sign to be a cop you know full well the dangers of the job. If you don't want to risk getting hurt taking someone down go work in an office.
In regards to other methods that might broken a bone, ask the kids parents if they would rather have a living soon with a broken bone or a dead son in a casket.
Cops spend to much time harassing young people because its easy than going after really problems particularly in college towns. Then when a big case comes along to the college pd they often horrendously botch it.
1) No, law enforcement is taught that Tasers are a "less lethal" tool, not non-lethal. Maybe you should take a Taser certification class and ride the lighting yourself....
2) Department policy dictates when it is acceptable to use compliance tools. The use of OC spray and Tasers have dramatically decreased officer injuries and job related disabilities by reducing hand to hand combat with non-compliant suspects. Simply put, Tasers save the lives of law enforcement more often than they cost the life of a non-compliant suspect.
3) You seem to have a real problem with campus cops and choose to paint them all with a very wide brush.
If the kid had shot and killed a cop would there even be a thread discussing it?
Nope, not enough grit for the bleeding hearts, the same ones that are destroying society.
If the kid had shot and killed a cop would there even be a thread discussing it?
Nope, not enough grit for the bleeding hearts, the same ones that are destroying society.
I'm sorry that in the real world is not like back on the farm in Iowa. How about you just worry about picking corn and leave the internet to people who can handle technology.
I'm sorry that in the real world is not like back on the farm in Iowa. How about you just worry about picking corn and leave the internet to people who can handle technology.
Thats funny, I'd compare life experiences with you but that would be like beating up one of Jerry's Kids.
Now get off the computer, your dial-up connection is keeping your mom from calling you for a ride from the bar.
Thats funny, I'd compare life experiences with you but that would be like beating up one of Jerry's Kids.
Now get off the computer, your dial-up connection is keeping your mom from calling you for a ride from the bar.
So much for being taught manners. I wouldn't expect less from someone who thinks only education they need is how to plant corn.
Thats funny, I'd compare life experiences with you but that would be like beating up one of Jerry's Kids.
Now get off the computer, your dial-up connection is keeping your mom from calling you for a ride from the bar.
That was too funny, and has a ring of truth.
And in all seriousness, the person's previous response as an attempt to be denigrating, misses the mark entirely. At least planting corn is an honest job which provides, both viable and beneficial results for society, and in fact would indeed signify that your input to this conversation is one of intelligence and significance, being a person who brings a meaningful and useful contribution to society.
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