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I don't like rogue cops either but why do people give cops an excuse to tase them by refusing to do what they say? When a cop says "drop to your knees" or "put your hands up where I can seem them", you do it. You don't stand there and argue with them nor do you refuse, otherwise they have no choice but to assume you are potentially dangerous and therefore you can expect a violent takedown.
It's obviously not 100% percent non lethal if there's even a one percent chance someone could die. College cops should not be using tasers to subdue obviously drunk students its ridiculous and excessive.
A reasonable response would be to haul him off to the drunk tank and fine him $500, heck even $1000 for resisting arrest and let him go.
College cops tend to have severe attitude problems/resentment towards the students which why many should not be in their position. IU uses student cops for the majority of their patrols on campus which I think is a great idea as students are best able to respond to a situation they're familirar with.
The cop should be fired or suspended. The student was being an idiot, but did not deserve to die
It's obviously not 100% percent non lethal if there's even a one percent chance someone could die. College cops should not be using tasers to subdue obviously drunk students its ridiculous and excessive.
A reasonable response would be to haul him off to the drunk tank and fine him $500, heck even $1000 for resisting arrest and let him go.
College cops tend to have severe attitude problems/resentment towards the students which why many should not be in their position. IU uses student cops for the majority of their patrols on campus which I think is a great idea as students are best able to respond to a situation they're familirar with.
The cop should be fired or suspended. The student was being an idiot, but did not deserve to die
Stupid hurts and sometimes it is lethal. The Taser is a compliance tool. The student was non-compliant. This was not "murder" as the OP and other cop bashers falesly accuse. An unneccessary death perhaps but the student made the wrong choice twice, first by creating a circumstance that required law enfocement's attention and the second by refusing to comply with officer's directions.
It's obviously not 100% percent non lethal if there's even a one percent chance someone could die. College cops should not be using tasers to subdue obviously drunk students its ridiculous and excessive.
A reasonable response would be to haul him off to the drunk tank and fine him $500, heck even $1000 for resisting arrest and let him go.
College cops tend to have severe attitude problems/resentment towards the students which why many should not be in their position. IU uses student cops for the majority of their patrols on campus which I think is a great idea as students are best able to respond to a situation they're familirar with.
The cop should be fired or suspended. The student was being an idiot, but did not deserve to die
yes a reasonable response would be to haul the kid off to jail on a variety of charges. how do you suggest the cop subdue the kid though? was the kid bigger than the cop? was he high on drugs, or was he drunk? and if the kid got into a fight with the cop because the cop chose to arrest him, would any of the others in the dorm area side with the kid and jump the cop? you dont know what happened because you were not there. you are making a judgement based on a short article, which is quite wrong. the cop made a judgement based on what was going on around him at the time. i feel sorry that the kid died, but in the end he brought it on himself.
Stupid hurts and sometimes it is lethal. The Taser is a compliance tool. The student was non-compliant. This was not "murder" as the OP and other cop bashers falesly accuse. An unneccessary death perhaps but the student made the wrong choice twice, first by creating a circumstance that required law enfocement's attention and the second by refusing to comply with officer's directions.
Nice, name calling and an assumption of authorized force without having any idea of what happened. I know the first guy is a thug, I just didn't know his partner was with him.
So a cop is a bear in the woods? An unthinking animal capable of random acts of violence. OK, yea, I guess that does make sense.
First, there was no name calling. If you think someone was being called names, versus a description, then maybe I should find someone an English tutor.
Second, the Bear in the woods was an analogy, MANY animals provide a WARNING, that if you come closer they will take action, if you fail to heed that warning, then you invite that action. I am sorry that the use of an analogy was so far over your head that you couldn't understand it.
Third, when a police officer responding to a 911 call orders you to back off, and you back off.
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the teen approached officers in a dormitory hallway, appearing agitated and angry, and when officers ordered him to back off, he refused and was struck with a stun gun
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Let me ask you something.. How many police officers have died in the line of duty? If you were responding to an emergency call, and an 18 year old approached you "AGITATED and ANGRY", and refused to back off, and advanced on you, would you ask them nicely to turn around and place their hands on the wall, since they are ignoring you anyways, or take the weapon you have been trained with that is supposed to be able to subdue without injury, the person who is advancing on you, or just let them come and possibly attack you?
This officer did what most police are trained to do, subdue with the least amount of force. Other methods include pepper spray, nightstick, or physically restraining, handcuffing and arresting. I have been pepper sprayed, and hit with a stun gun, both are unpleasant, the spray is the worse, especially since I wear contact lenses! The stun gun, while unpleasant, is not permanent like a broken bone or bones may be, by way of a nightstick, or PR24.
This strikes me as a comment made without really thinking through what you are saying.
What crime?
The student was not even accused of any crime at the time of the incident.
And even if there was an accusation of a crime, it is for the courts, not the police on the street to determine guilt, much less punishment.
This is silly though, as previously stated there is not enough information to make any kind of rational judgement concerning fault. It is sad though.
Actually, the kid DID perform a criminal offense.
When a police officer orders you to back off and you don't, you are Hindering him in the performance of his duties.
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Hinder means any obstruction or interference that makes a police officer's duty more difficult to perform. It includes, but is not limited, to physical obstruction. For example, a person who deliberately stands in the way of police officers or who argues with them when they are trying to arrest another person may be guilty of the offence of hindering police.
To keep advancing, both angry and agitated, could be seen as "Assault on a police officer", had the teen come into contact with the officer, then you could add battery.
So, I have pointed out the 2 crimes that were committed.
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