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Old 06-27-2015, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The Court used Section 1 of the Fourteen Amendment to justify their argument, which reads: Amendment XIV Section 1. "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." By using the Constitution in such a manner, the Court argues that the Due Process Clause extends “certain personal choices central to individual dignity and autonomy” accepted in a majority of states across the state lines of a handful of states that still banned the practice. - See more at: Constitutional Rights PAC | SCOTUS Ruling On Same-Sex Marriage Mandates Nationwide Concealed Carry Reciprocity
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The vast majority of states are “shall issue” on the matter of issuing concealed carry permits, and enjoy reciprocity with a large number of other states. My North Carolina concealed carry permit, for example, was recognized yesterday as being valid in 36 states, which just so happened to be the number of states in which gay marriage was legal yesterday. But 14 states did not recognize my concealed carry permit yesterday. Today they must. Using the same “due process clause” argument as the Supreme Court just applied to gay marriage, my concealed carry permit must now be recognized as valid in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. I’ll be driving through the District of Columbia, Maryland, New Jersey, and New York in several weeks, places that until yesterday I did not have a legal right to concealed carry. As of today, with this decision, it would seem that these states and the District must honor my concealed carry permit, or violate my constitutional rights under the 14th and Second Amendment.
Interesting article and point. Will this ruling pave the way for nationwide concealed carry reciprocity? Will it finally ensure that the citizens of all states have the full opportunity to exercise their civil rights?
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Old 06-27-2015, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Interesting article and point. Will this ruling pave the way for nationwide concealed carry reciprocity? Will it finally ensure that the citizens of all states have the full opportunity to exercise their civil rights?

I hope so.

But I do think there is a technicality and most states (if not all - too lazy to check tbh) refer to their license to carry a concealed weapon as "permits" not licenses.

Silly little thing to get hung up on, but that's a question for the courts I would suppose.
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Old 06-27-2015, 09:17 AM
 
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Oh it's coming by way of a few California based carry lawsuits currently winding their way through the 9th.
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Old 06-27-2015, 09:28 AM
 
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Interesting article and point. Will this ruling pave the way for nationwide concealed carry reciprocity? Will it finally ensure that the citizens of all states have the full opportunity to exercise their civil rights?
No. Remember two days ago they admitted the law said one thing but ruled another way because they wanted to.
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Old 06-27-2015, 09:48 AM
 
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No. Remember two days ago they admitted the law said one thing but ruled another way because they wanted to.
Exactly, you can't expect consistency or logic from this bunch, it's all about the agenda.
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Old 06-27-2015, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Interesting article and point. Will this ruling pave the way for nationwide concealed carry reciprocity? Will it finally ensure that the citizens of all states have the full opportunity to exercise their civil rights?
I'd certainly welcome that outcome. A concealed carry license should be recognized universally, just like a driver's license is.
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Old 06-27-2015, 09:55 AM
 
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Careful, I started a topic yesterday saying, essentially, the same thing and it was locked. Maybe it wasn't controversial enough.
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Old 06-27-2015, 09:59 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Interesting article and point. Will this ruling pave the way for nationwide concealed carry reciprocity? Will it finally ensure that the citizens of all states have the full opportunity to exercise their civil rights?
Careful what you wish for. If the Supreme Court takes up the gun issue they be forced to rule on what the Founding Father meant by a "well regulated militia" and you might not like the outcome.
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Old 06-27-2015, 10:02 AM
 
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Careful what you wish for. If the Supreme Court takes up the gun issue they be forced to rule on what the Founding Father meant by "well regulated militia" and you might not like the outcome.
They have already ruled on that.
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Old 06-27-2015, 10:04 AM
 
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Careful what you wish for. If the Supreme Court takes up the gun issue they be forced to rule on what the Founding Father meant by a "well regulated militia" and you might not like the outcome.
A caveat if there ever was one!
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