We need opportunity, not jobs (employment, Congress, wage, lawyers)

[jwm1964]

It seems all I hear pundits, demagogues, GOP Candidates, the President and Congress harping about is jobs - jobs - jobs.

Jobs are not the problem, jobs are a symptom of the problem.
The problem is government getting in the way of small business which generates 60+ % of the GDP, pandering to Big Business and trying to replace productive and profitable private industry with inefficient, wasteful and non-productive public sector products and services. We live in a country that is extremely wealthy and populated by an industrious and entrepreneurial people. If government quits tying the hands of small business with taxes and regulation which takes a bevy of lawyers, accountants and OSHA experts to navigate our economy would kick in to overdrive and the jobs would be there.

We need opportunity, not jobs.

The individual who jumps into the business arena risks all in our environment with the risk of lawsuits for everything from product liability, safe working conditions to offending someone with a different value system or lifestyle than themselves. When in spite of these obstacles they are successful, those they employ, who risk nothing believe they are somehow entitled to a proportion of the companies profits, not a wage commiserate with the market value of the contribution they make to the product or service the company produces.

We are a country and people who have lost our sense of who and what we are. We have turned our back on the acknowledged rights and responsibilities of a free people and society to become safe worker drones in a centrally managed supposedly "safe" environment.

Wake up people, we've been sold a bad deal and we don't even realize we have sold out our freedom for a security that does not exist.

I guess I'm ranting, but I am curious to know what the rest of you think.

[Driller1]

Originally Posted by jwm1964

It seems all I hear pundits, demagogues, GOP Candidates, the President and Congress harping about is jobs - jobs - jobs.

Jobs are not the problem, jobs are a symptom of the problem.
The problem is government getting in the way of small business which generates 60+ % of the GDP, pandering to Big Business and trying to replace productive and profitable private industry with inefficient, wasteful and non-productive public sector products and services. We live in a country that is extremely wealthy and populated by an industrious and entrepreneurial people. If government quits tying the hands of small business with taxes and regulation which takes a bevy of lawyers, accountants and OSHA experts to navigate our economy would kick in to overdrive and the jobs would be there.

We need opportunity, not jobs.

The individual who jumps into the business arena risks all in our environment with the risk of lawsuits for everything from product liability, safe working conditions to offending someone with a different value system or lifestyle than themselves. When in spite of these obstacles they are successful, those they employ, who risk nothing believe they are somehow entitled to a proportion of the companies profits, not a wage commiserate with the market value of the contribution they make to the product or service the company produces.

We are a country and people who have lost our sense of who and what we are. We have turned our back on the acknowledged rights and responsibilities of a free people and society to become safe worker drones in a centrally managed supposedly "safe" environment.

Wake up people, we've been sold a bad deal and we don't even realize we have sold out our freedom for a security that does not exist.

I guess I'm ranting, but I am curious to know what the rest of you think.

Well said!!!!!!

[marcopolo]

The "jobs crisis" is a business crisis. EVERY job in the country is funded by private enterprise; even public-sector jobs are paid by taxes levied on private enterprise.

The president has not connected the dots between employers and employment. He evidently believes you can tax, harass, over-regulate, and threaten employers with no effect on employment. Apples come from trees; employment comes from employers. If you want apples and employment, you better take care of the trees and the employers.

So what are the odds that Obama's MAJOR September speech about employment will show that he has connected the dots? You know and I know it will be a rehash of the same old playbook: more debt for temporary "created" jobs, with the higher burden eventually falling on private enterprise.

He is killing the goose that lays golden eggs.

[eek]

we need opportunities AND jobs.

/thread

[chickenfriedbananas]

Judging by the posts on this forum, we need education.

[marcopolo]

Originally Posted by chickenfriedbananas

Judging by the posts on this forum, we need education.

You don't understand the link between employment and employers, either?

[stan4]

Originally Posted by jwm1964

It seems all I hear pundits, demagogues, GOP Candidates, the President and Congress harping about is jobs - jobs - jobs.

Jobs are not the problem, jobs are a symptom of the problem.
The problem is government getting in the way of small business which generates 60+ % of the GDP, pandering to Big Business and trying to replace productive and profitable private industry with inefficient, wasteful and non-productive public sector products and services. We live in a country that is extremely wealthy and populated by an industrious and entrepreneurial people. If government quits tying the hands of small business with taxes and regulation which takes a bevy of lawyers, accountants and OSHA experts to navigate our economy would kick in to overdrive and the jobs would be there.

We need opportunity, not jobs.

The individual who jumps into the business arena risks all in our environment with the risk of lawsuits for everything from product liability, safe working conditions to offending someone with a different value system or lifestyle than themselves. When in spite of these obstacles they are successful, those they employ, who risk nothing believe they are somehow entitled to a proportion of the companies profits, not a wage commiserate with the market value of the contribution they make to the product or service the company produces.

We are a country and people who have lost our sense of who and what we are. We have turned our back on the acknowledged rights and responsibilities of a free people and society to become safe worker drones in a centrally managed supposedly "safe" environment.

Wake up people, we've been sold a bad deal and we don't even realize we have sold out our freedom for a security that does not exist.

I guess I'm ranting, but I am curious to know what the rest of you think.

I completely agree.

[jwm1964]

Originally Posted by eek

we need opportunities AND jobs.

/thread

I disagree.

Providing opportunity creates jobs.

Creating jobs by the public sector transfers resources from the productive private sector which contributes to the economy with it's productivity. History shows us that the public sector is not productive, hence the "jobs" created by the public sector negatively impact the economy by creating a net loss from the resources confiscated from the private sector to create these 'jobs'.

Opportunity is the problem, not jobs - with opportunity comes jobs.
Providing public sector jobs by the government drains the resources of the private sector further damaging the economy.

[Neuling]

Originally Posted by chickenfriedbananas

Judging by the posts on this forum, we need education.

I agree. Uneducated people can get all the opportunities they want, they won't be smart and inventive enough to make something out of it.

[jwm1964]

Originally Posted by Neuling

I agree. Uneducated people can get all the opportunities they want, they won't be smart and inventive enough to make something out of it.

Wow, what contempt you show for your fellow Americans.
It's kind of funny, the educational elite said the same things about Henry Ford in his day.