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Those people who want America to be an industrial powerhouse so China pollutes less.
I'd love to know more about these people and how they plan on accomplishing that. Do they think that EPA should be gone, or at least neutered so it exists only so that they have something to blame for the debacle that will surely ensue? Got more information about these people? Can't wait for it.
I'd love to know more about these people and how they plan on accomplishing that. Do they think that EPA should be gone, or at least neutered so it exists only so that they have something to blame for the debacle that will surely ensue? Got more information about these people? Can't wait for it.
The people who've lost their job due to new EPA regulations.
The people who've lost their job due to new EPA regulations.
So getting rid of the EPA regulations (not necessarily the EPA... which can exist but only for namesake). How would that ensure a better environment? Explain.
Who would be these people? What do they believe in... that all is just fine? Then they would be the candidates.
At least you're not limiting self to local weather conditions but considering a global impact. But I must ask, what facts are used to determine these impacts? Are those the same kind that the climate-change deniers like to dismiss as being inaccurate or "paid for" by Al Gore?
Well EG, we have a nice history that goes back thru a number of El Nino/La Nina ENSO cycles as well as a nice history of PDO cycles.
we have good weather information that links nicely to these climatic events so any good climatologist/weather man can tell you these things.
Also there are any number of papers on the connections. Both the "deniers" and the faithful to the church of CAGW accept the science behind the PDO/ENSO events and its impact on regional weather conditions.
in fact, Joe Bastardi has been discussing the PDO/ENSO relation to this current Hurricane season and has pointed out that the season will likely be an Atlantic Coast Season. Meaning what hits we take will likely be in that area.
he also stated that Texas will likely see some precipitation from storms that are "home brewed in the Gulf of Mexico and not from storms that slip in from the Atlantic. time will tell but he is basing this on history and understanding of established climate/weather relationships.
When Irene was starting to shape up in the Atlantic, he stated that it would run the Eastern Seaboard and be a big storm. He further stated that it would be followed in short order by a second possibly bigger storm that would “chase” it. Low and behold, Katia was named this morning and is “chasing” Irene. It does look to be a bit east in track (thank God).
Bastardi 2 days ago said to look for formation of a storm in the Western Caribbean/Gulf of Mexico that should bring a rain event into Texas.
He made these claims based on comparisons to I believe 1958 season. I may be wrong on 1958 but it is certainly a 1950’s hurricane season. And it has to do with both the temp. in the Atlantic as well as the ENSO and PDO cycles.
The point here is that there are clear connections between global climatic cycles and regional weather events. We don’t have to go mysterious and blame Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming for weather events that are pretty typical.
Well EG, we have a nice history that goes back thru a number of El Nino/La Nina ENSO cycles as well as a nice history of PDO cycles.
we have good weather information that links nicely to these climatic events so any good climatologist/weather man can tell you these things.
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I was looking for how this "good information" from the side you believe in differs from that the other side claims. Besides, "history" doesn't sound good when we're talking things of this nature, on global scale and without some scientific reality.
You said there was global cooling in the Pacific basin correlated to high temperatures in Texas. What kind of measurement was involved? I hope something more than seats to the pants feel?
You can't reach the ignorant. Every single country on the planet acknowledges climate chane and every developing country is ramping up to meet the challenge in every regard except the "Let's go shopping at the mall, watch dancing with the stars, and worship our huge gas guzzling suv", bury your head in a hole America! It could be a bunch of crap, but science and a lot of ice core samples and data spanning more than a week...... as in centuries, certainly points in that direction. So why not be safe and give it the benifit of the doubt. You can't even see God... but people still go to church. Why? Just in case the skeptics are wrong.
Good thing China is bringing all those soft-coal plants on-line - that should solve the problem!
So getting rid of the EPA regulations (not necessarily the EPA... which can exist but only for namesake). How would that ensure a better environment? Explain.
We have laws already in place but the EPA keeps issuing more and more regulations yet global pollution is rising.
We have laws already in place but the EPA keeps issuing more and more regulations yet global pollution is rising.
Removing them will help, obviously because we would be more like China then. No? How exactly would people who want to protect the environment benefit from elimination of such regulations? Why don't they in China where environmental regulations are non-existent?
Removing them will help, obviously because we would be more like China then. No? How exactly would people who want to protect the environment benefit from elimination of such regulations? Why don't they in China where environmental regulations are non-existent?
We don't need to remove the laws we have to keep the economy in mind when making new rules.
those who dont believe in global warming utilize when they are forced to flee and will they still acknowledge it at that point or blame it on "cycles"?
"The research, published with little fanfare this week in the prestigious journal Nature, comes from über-prestigious CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, one of the world’s largest centres for scientific research involving 60 countries and 8,000 scientists at more than 600 universities and national laboratories. CERN is the organization that invented the World Wide Web, that built the multi-billion dollar Large Hadron Collider, and that has now built a pristinely clean stainless steel chamber that precisely recreated the Earth’s atmosphere.
In this chamber, 63 CERN scientists from 17 European and American institutes have done what global warming doomsayers said could never be done — demonstrate that cosmic rays promote the formation of molecules that in Earth’s atmosphere can grow and seed clouds, the cloudier and thus cooler it will be. Because the sun’s magnetic field controls how many cosmic rays reach Earth’s atmosphere (the stronger the sun’s magnetic field, the more it shields Earth from incoming cosmic rays from space), the sun determines the temperature on Earth."
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as in centuries, certainly points in that direction. So why not be safe and give it the benifit of the doubt. You can't even see God...
but people still go to church. Why? Just in case the skeptics are wrong.
