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You can't reach the ignorant. Every single country on the planet acknowledges climate chane and every developing country is ramping up to meet the challenge in every regard except the "Let's go shopping at the mall, watch dancing with the stars, and worship our huge gas guzzling suv", bury your head in a hole America! It could be a bunch of crap, but science and a lot of ice core samples and data spanning more than a week...... as in centuries, certainly points in that direction. So why not be safe and give it the benifit of the doubt. You can't even see God... but people still go to church. Why? Just in case the skeptics are wrong.
I was looking for how this "good information" from the side you believe in differs from that the other side claims. Besides, "history" doesn't sound good when we're talking things of this nature, on global scale and without some scientific reality.
You said there was global cooling in the Pacific basin correlated to high temperatures in Texas. What kind of measurement was involved? I hope something more than seats to the pants feel?
Ok. No bull. No spin. no taking my side here.
I am very certain that any climatologist regardless of their view of AGW, will tell you the same thing in regard to linking El Nino/La Nina events to regional weather patterns.
There is tons of information out there on ENSO (El Nino/La Nina Southern Oscillation) out there.
Additionally you should look at PDO (Pacific Decadal Oscillation) the ENSO is a shorter term change from warm to cool phases. Each phase lasts for some months then moves to either the opposite phase or to neutral and back to the same. PDO is a much longer phase that lasts between 40 and 70 years. The PDO warm phase will have more El Nino (warm) events. The PDO cool phase will have more La Nina (cool) events.
This heavily impacts global climate and it also drives a number of regional weather patterns. There is a well established correlation between El Nino and moderated temperature/wetter summers in Texas. La Nina is well correlated to dryer/hotter weather patterns in Texas.
This has no bearing on AGW. It simply is. If AGW is real or not real, it would not change the fact that these things are correlated. And we have nearly 100 years of proof to that effect.
Who would be these people? What do they believe in... that all is just fine? Then they would be the candidates.
At least you're not limiting self to local weather conditions but considering a global impact. But I must ask, what facts are used to determine these impacts? Are those the same kind that the climate-change deniers like to dismiss as being inaccurate or "paid for" by Al Gore?
No, CERN!!! Ha, ha. Too funny. Man made global warming received a body blow.
You can't reach the ignorant. Every single country on the planet acknowledges climate chane and every developing country is ramping up to meet the challenge in every regard except the "Let's go shopping at the mall, watch dancing with the stars, and worship our huge gas guzzling suv", bury your head in a hole America! It could be a bunch of crap, but science and a lot of ice core samples and data spanning more than a week...... as in centuries, certainly points in that direction. So why not be safe and give it the benifit of the doubt. You can't even see God... but people still go to church. Why? Just in case the skeptics are wrong.
sigh....
It would be nice if we could have a discussion about the subject based on actual science and really real facts.
did you know that the Vostock Ice Core (which goes back hundreds of thousands of years) shows that CO2 rise lags Temperature changes by as much as 800 years? that is the opposite of what the CAGW theory tells us should be the case....so your rant fails the simple test of being based in reality.
why am supposed to take on faith a theory you cannot back with some shred of factual evidence?
Back in the 1600's we started using coal to make whiskey. They figured out how to drive off the stuff that made bad iron with coal and so we started using coal to make iron with. Not much CO2 but a lot of soot. The soot got the snow dirty and that made it melt and that made it warmer. Now we have cleaned up the industry and it should start to cool off again.
Excuse me, OP, but where do you live? Because San Diego, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle, Washington DC, Baltimore, NYC, and many other places are going to be underwater, too. What are you gonna do when the entire eastern and western seaboards are gone? What excuse are YOU going to make for not fleeing?
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as in centuries, certainly points in that direction. So why not be safe and give it the benifit of the doubt. You can't even see God...
but people still go to church. Why? Just in case the skeptics are wrong.
