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Old 08-31-2011, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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those who dont believe in global warming utilize when they are forced to flee and will they still acknowledge it at that point or blame it on "cycles"?
They'll be dead, they won't care. That is the most honest answer you'll get on the thread. These people live only for themselves and for right now.
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Old 08-31-2011, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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it did that over thousands of years not a few decades... there is a difference and if you live long you will see it first hand, assuming you haven't already.
Thousands of years? Perhaps you are unfamilier with this period in mankinds history?
Medieval Warm Period - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Medieval Warm Period (MWP) or Medieval Climate Optimum was a time of warm climate in the North Atlantic region, that may also have been related to other climate events around the world during that time, including in China,[1] New Zealand,[2] and other countries[3][4][5][6][7][8][9] lasting from about AD 950–1250.[10] It was followed by a cooler period in the North Atlantic termed the Little Ice Age. Some refer to the event as the Medieval Climatic Anomaly as this term emphasizes that effects other than temperature were important.[11][12
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:55 AM
 
Location: France, that's in Europe
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are you serious? china puts out more CO2 than we do, they passed us a couple of years ago. also the ONLY country that has met the kyoto and montreal protocols is the US, and WE DIDNT SIGN THEM. nice try but you fail.
Priceless: how about comparing the population of China to the USA? You know China is about 1.4 billion, the USA is about 320 million, so one quarter of the people but about the same emissions. And that's not even taking into account that lots of manufacturing that the USA imports takes place in China.

And the big lie is claiming that the USA met the Kyoto Protocol. It didn't: the goal was to reduce emissions by 5%: the USA increased them by 6%

http://epa.gov/climatechange/emissions/downloads11/GHG-Fast-Facts-2009.pdf (broken link)

Note that the USA is the only country that signed the Kyoto Protocol and then didn't ratify it. That's a way to make yourself look good isn't it?

And the Montreal Protocol dealt with CFCs which caused the ozone hole.
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Old 09-06-2011, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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those who dont believe in global warming utilize when they are forced to flee and will they still acknowledge it at that point or blame it on "cycles"?
Go fight with CERN.
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Old 09-06-2011, 06:50 AM
 
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those who dont believe in global warming utilize when they are forced to flee and will they still acknowledge it at that point or blame it on "cycles"?

............................ and you actually believe this?


What do you suppose the prehistoric crocodiles did when the artic changed from a tropical climate to a cooler one?

The funniest part of the man-made global warming crowd is that they consider those who do not share thier views "ignorant". I am sure that they do not appreciate the irony of such claims, but perhaps in time they will.
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:22 AM
 
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Or we could be heading into the next ice age. Long cold winters. 4 in a row.

Yep, all of the snow I've been getting here in Texas will cool it back down.
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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IMHO the South is already uninhabitable without cheap electricity to run the air conditioning.
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:21 AM
 
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IMHO the South is already uninhabitable without cheap electricity to run the air conditioning.
that's funny, i could've sworn my ancestors lived here for about 300 years before A/C was common.
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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IMHO the South is already uninhabitable without cheap electricity to run the air conditioning.
I was just going to say that!

I also consider the south to be uninhabitable today, but then again, I live in Alaska. When I refer to the "south" I mean anything south of 50°N latitude.
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:35 AM
 
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those who dont believe in global warming utilize when they are forced to flee and will they still acknowledge it at that point or blame it on "cycles"?
there is nothing to "blame" on anyone.

If you are at all a student of climate (which you seem not to be), you would know that the earth's climate changes constantly, but over a time period that is fairly large.

For example, every now and then, we enter a period of "Ice Age", where the polar ice cap comes down covers much larger areas with sheets of ice hundreds and possibly thousands of feet thick. You can see the scaring of such ice masses on granite stones protruding to the surface in Central Park, NYC.

Other time, the earth's climate is much warmer.

The reasons are manifold, and sometimes accumulate and sometimes cancel each other out, but include solar output levels, tilt of earth's axis, shape and location of orbit etc.,

To try to crush society, and it's economic endeavors by such scare tactics as blaming these natural and normal climate swings on mankind is disgraceful, but the stuff liberals are made of.
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