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Old 09-11-2011, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Originally Posted by Stars&StripesForever View Post
And Popular Mechanics didn't have anything to gain. Um, yeah..

True scientists who have nothing to gain have conducted empirical studies that have concluded that the logistics of the whole event is a fraud. That people like you continue to believe in lies, when the evidence demonstrably reveals you to be in error, is absurd.
Go to my first post in this thread. This is the same non sense trotted out by conspiracy theorists. The fact that you are a birther speaks volumes.

 
Old 09-11-2011, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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I always trust corporate media for the facts.

They are persons, just like me!
In other words, rather than read and analyze the report, you'll pretend that anything to do with the media is irredeemably corrupt.

Not a smart way to go through life.
 
Old 09-11-2011, 02:56 PM
 
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I just saw a picture of either WTC 3 or WTC 6, completely blackened by fire, one side of it smashed, no windows anywhere, and standing tall.

Americans are taught not to question, and events like these remind me why
Exactly what would've been the point of bringing down WTC 7 from the point of a conspiracy guy like yourself? What exactly was the gain? Further, how can someone ask what is rational when all the of rational evidence has been discounted because you can't accept reality? It's incredibly ironic.
 
Old 09-11-2011, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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Let's be honest.

Something is wrong about Obama's birth and/or legal standing. All the evidence supports such.

In the same manner, something is wrong with the official story of 9-11.

The "Truthers" and "Birthers" each have legitimate arguments.
Let's be honest.

The only real argument that the birthers have is, "that guy's black and I'm not going to stand for a black president."
 
Old 09-11-2011, 02:59 PM
 
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Exactly what would've been the point of bringing down WTC 7 from the point of a conspiracy guy like yourself? What exactly was the gain? Further, how can someone ask what is rational when all the of rational evidence has been discounted because you can't accept reality? It's incredibly ironic.
Spoliation of evidence involving Government crimes world-wide.
 
Old 09-11-2011, 03:00 PM
 
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1) the Twin towers were hit by 2 767s, which were the largest planes at the time
2) both Towers lost 20-23% of the structure on the impact floors.
3) only slight weekening can have a catistrophic effects when the load is 125% the normal load on the structural members.
so no other outside influences were needed to bring the towers down.
 
Old 09-11-2011, 03:02 PM
 
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Spoliation of evidence involving Government crimes world-wide.
why couldnt they just burn it rather than bringing down the entire building.
 
Old 09-11-2011, 03:02 PM
 
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1) the Twin towers were hit by 2 767s, which were the largest planes at the time
2) both Towers lost 20-23% of the structure on the impact floors.
3) only slight weekening can have a catistrophic effects when the load is 125% the normal load on the structural members.
so no other outside influences were needed to bring the towers down.
That's a nice neat package you have there, son.

Do you mind if anyone looks inside for any reason, logic or common sense?
 
Old 09-11-2011, 03:04 PM
 
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Let's be honest.

The only real argument that the birthers have is, "that guy's black and I'm not going to stand for a black president."
Now, THAT'S a cogent argument.

Or, is it just convenient?
 
Old 09-11-2011, 03:05 PM
 
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It will for unquestioning minds like yours. And that explanation might have merit, but it does not end the argument. The motive is still there, plenty of other buildings (around the world) have suffered far worse and not collapsed, and the ability of neoconservatives to get their operatives in place over a 12 hour window and plant thermite is also possible.

For all I know, PM is published by Newscorp.
Are all buildings built the same? Do all buildings burn for 7 hours uncontrolled? It's pretty obvious to a truly rational person that some people just can't handle the reality of that horrible day, and it's easier to believe in some mass conspiracy than to believe that people just do sh*t things to each other for political and religious gain.
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