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View Poll Results: Christians, do you support the murder of those that don't believe as you do?
Yes, I'm a Christian and I support violence against non-believers 3 8.82%
No, I'm a Christian and I do NOT support violence against non-believers 12 35.29%
I'm a Christian and I condemn all that would slaughter innocent people in the name of Christianity 19 55.88%
Voters: 34. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-13-2011, 01:27 PM
 
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But not Himself. Besides, isn't it all God's plan? If a person kills another, it is because God wanted it to happen? If you agree, join me in the Religion forum on the subject. It could get annoyingly religious here.
That's why I changed the subject to WMD's. It'll stir the thread up in other ways pretty quickly.
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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I love it when liberal trolls don't pay attention to the fact that it's a public poll.
So do I.
What a maroon!
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:33 PM
 
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Suicide bombing was probably invented by a Christian, and has been used across religions (some just more prone to chickening out of it and go for bombing and shooting instead).



Have a link?
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:33 PM
 
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But not Himself. Besides, isn't it all God's plan? If a person kills another, it is because God wanted it to happen? If you agree, join me in the Religion forum on the subject. It could get annoyingly religious here.
I do believe God is sovereign, yes. Nothing happens without him allowing it to happen.

But having said that, he did advocate his disciples defending themselves.



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Suicide bombing was probably invented by a Christian, and has been used across religions (some just more prone to chickening out of it and go for bombing and shooting instead).

That right there demonstrates your bias.
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I do believe God is sovereign, yes. Nothing happens without him allowing it to happen.

But having said that, he did advocate his disciples defending themselves.
Well, such "Christians" should start complaining. The suicide bombers are just doing God's work. So, there is a common ground between them and those complaining about them: God.
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Suicide bombing was probably invented by a Christian, and has been used across religions (some just more prone to chickening out of it and go for bombing and shooting instead).
Isn't suicide frowned upon by at least some branches of Christianity?
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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Well, such "Christians" should start complaining. The suicide bombers are just doing God's work. So, there is a common ground between them and those complaining about them: God.
not quite. God does allow evil, but he does not ordain it.
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Isn't suicide frowned upon by at least some branches of Christianity?
I couldn't care less about some or all.

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not quite. God does allow evil, but he does not ordain it.
So your idea of God just happens to be a micro-manager with a pathetic control over His creation. Got it.
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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What is the difference between #2 and #3?
Fair question. Some might not commit violence in the name of religion, but would do nothing to stop others from doing so. Nor would they condemn others within the religion that used violence in it's name.
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:48 PM
 
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Hrm...noo....

The Bush White House claimed Hussein had WMD's and that he constituted an imminent threat. The UN, in an after-9/11 daze, agreed to anything Colin Powell wanted. This was back in the day, when the world still kinda liked the US.


Way back then?

How about long before that time?


Democrats before Iraq War started.... - YouTube

And it's not just a claim. Hussein really did have chemical weapons and really did use them to kill civilians.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Kurds mark Iraq gas attack


Accounting for and surrendering all chemical weapons was a condition of the 1991 cease fire agreement he violated over and over, so it's not like Bush needed a special reason to go back in. We promised to not invade in 1991, but that was a conditional promise. Got it?
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