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Old 09-20-2011, 11:21 AM
 
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Stoopid. So all you do gooders sit their on your PC with your license for every piece of your software sitting right next to you.
Yes, I've legally bought all the pay for software that currently sits on my computer.


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Hell I cold get on my neighors wireless and download a couple gigs of music and guess who would get blamed? Not me. And don't give me any crap about "he should have security on his router". It's so simple to hack those things a child could do it.
Yeah, try and hack mines.
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:31 AM
 
Location: FL
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The Music belongs to the Artist? What reality do you live in? Not this one.

Is buying a second or third hand CD at a flea market copyright infringment? The Recording company is not getting a dime of the couple of bucks I pay for a disk. Why should they?
This is what Garth Brooks was whining about a few years back. He thought he should be paid again when one of his CD's was sold at a garage sale. By that logic when you resell your Ford or Toyota, should you pay Ford and Toyota again? Hell no.

Metallica was one of the biggest whiners about sites like Kazaa and Limewire and look where their careers are now......karmas a beyotch.
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:34 AM
 
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This is what Garth Brooks was whining about a few years back. He thought he should be paid again when one of his CD's was sold at a garage sale. By that logic when you resell your Ford or Toyota, should you pay Ford and Toyota again? Hell no.

Metallica was one of the biggest whiners about sites like Kazaa and Limewire and look where their careers are now......karmas a beyotch.

Too bad most of Metallica's best music is from the Black album on back! Perhaps if they would have continued to make good music (and I love their first 4 albums) they would have sold more cds instead of people downloading individual songs.
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:39 AM
 
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The person who originally uploaded the material is the thief. Not the downloader(s).
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How does one steal, when it is right there for the taking?

The person offering the free downloads, is the person that is the crook, not the opportunist.
That does bring up an interesting question.

Say person A downloads a movie from Amazon, and Amazon doesnt pay the fee for the authority to distribute.

Why is the downloader breaking the law, not the distributor?
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:39 AM
 
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Can you tell us how, US LAWS affect someone living in China?
I've seen some dumb things posted here, yours is one of the top ten...

International copyright agreements

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there are international treaties which provide protection automatically for all creative works as soon as they are fixed in a medium. There are two primary international copyright agreements, the Buenos Aires Convention and the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works.

Please show me where I said US LAWS were being broken...

Methinks you either need reading glasses or knock off the Kool-Aid...
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:40 AM
 
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This is what Garth Brooks was whining about a few years back. He thought he should be paid again when one of his CD's was sold at a garage sale. By that logic when you resell your Ford or Toyota, should you pay Ford and Toyota again? Hell no.

Metallica was one of the biggest whiners about sites like Kazaa and Limewire and look where their careers are now......karmas a beyotch.
What a lot of artists and movie makers don't understand is that internet piracy often introduces people to their work who might otherwise never heard it or seen it.

Most of the movies and TV series I have purchased on DVD or bought off iTunes in the past three or so years I have originally downloaded illegally, but decided to buy the higher-quality version. A lot of them I was skeptical of buying in the first place and decided to look into it before buying.
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:47 AM
 
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Downloading music illegally isn't the same as stealing. Stealing involves a physical product that has defined costs associated where someone had print, press and distribute the product. Downloading music is more like sneaking into a concert than grabbing a CD off the rack. Sneaking into a concert is only a lost sale if that person was previously planning to buy a ticket, before someone left the gate unattended.
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:48 AM
 
Location: FL
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What a lot of artists and movie makers don't understand is that internet piracy often introduces people to their work who might otherwise never heard it or seen it.

Most of the movies and TV series I have purchased on DVD or bought off iTunes in the past three or so years I have originally downloaded illegally, but decided to buy the higher-quality version. A lot of them I was skeptical of buying in the first place and decided to look into it before buying.
Exactly, if I hear an illegal version of Clapton's "Layla", I'm off to the music department buying the 3 disc greatest hits set at $24.95.
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:54 AM
 
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I've seen some dumb things posted here, yours is one of the top ten...

International copyright agreements
so, that means as a US citizen, I can hire a US Lawyer and SUE someone in China for copyright infringement?

Please show me how I can do this (and before you say you can, I've already gone through this, being an artist myself and having my artwork stolen to be used as designs on tshirts). Please illustrate in GREAT detail how a US Citizen can sue someone in China for a crime.

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Please show me where I said US LAWS were being broken...
You do know that its US Laws that one from the US has to make a claim under in order to show damage.

Tell me how a person in China is obligated to show up for a US court to defend him/herself over his criminal activities?
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