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Old 09-26-2011, 08:13 PM
 
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The Cosby Show.

Middle class black family. No one hooked on drugs. Solid nuclear family. Aside from Dr. Cosby's Jazz undertones, nothing about race really.
Cosby's lessons seem to be ignored, sadly.
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Old 09-26-2011, 08:21 PM
 
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The Cosby Show.

Middle class black family. No one hooked on drugs. Solid nuclear family. Aside from Dr. Cosby's Jazz undertones, nothing about race really.
Yes, and he was actually criticized for it too, if I recall correctly, by some in the 'progressive' black movement.
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:26 AM
 
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The violent reaction from "tolerant" progressives is to be expected when a mirror is held up and they're forced to look back at their hypocritical selves.

Berkeley Bake Sale Reveals the Fraud of Affirmative Action
Campus Republican President Shawn Lewis revealed that the backlash to the Facebook posting of the event was far greater than anticipated. "We didn’t expect the volume, the amount of response that we got," he said. "In the first few hours, hundreds of posts on our Facebook page. And the tone of some of the responses–we expected people to be upset. We didn’t expect personal threats to be made. They were implicit and explicit threats made to the organizers of the event, from burning down the table to throwing our baked goods at us and other kinds of physical threats."
I loved this part-

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After listing the aforementioned prices, the posting finished with one more satirical tweak. "Hope to see you all there! If you don't come, you're a racist!"
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Old 09-27-2011, 11:20 AM
 
Location: California
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So much for free speech in the USA.
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Old 09-27-2011, 11:26 AM
 
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Yes, and he was actually criticized for it too, if I recall correctly, by some in the 'progressive' black movement.
Cosby has mainly been criticized for the political arguments he made, not for his show.

The standard black conservative spiel has been to focus entirely on the rhetoric of self-help rather than to balance self-help arguments with systemic analysis. The black community generally doesn't take criticism well, and we're far too quick to brand people as traitors, but his arguments are myopic to say the least. Too much Booker T., not enough W.E.B., basically.
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Old 09-27-2011, 11:35 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I just read another article on this and something doesn't make sense to me. The California bill doesn't explicitly state that minorities will receive preferential treatment or lower tuition rates. It simply states the that race or ethnicity, which is not recorded on the students application, will now be added. It seems to me the current system is more fair, with the race of the applicant unknown (unless their last name is Garcia or Lee, and even then you can't be completely sure), but by recording the race of the applicant, you leave open the risk that a university admissions staff member could actually now use race to discriminate against applicants. Not to show prefence to one particular group or other, but to discimnate against them which is the opposite intent of the bill. What if admissions personnel had a negative experience with a person of different race during their morning commute, might they consciously or subconsciously discriminate against an applicant of the same race later in that same day? We would like to think people are above such things, but experience teaches otherwise.
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Old 09-27-2011, 01:39 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Berkeley is implementing policy to take race into account in admissions.

So the YR's are holding a bake sale with prices set higher for whites and lower for blacks, native Americans and minorities (Indians were left off).

So, while University of Michigan has already fought their battles on this, the YR's at Berkeley are carrying the flag...

Problem is they are right to oppose the act, but not for the reasons they think.

Using race alone as a criteria, diminishes the accomplishments of minorities across the board.

Using SES is a more valid criteria to use for admissions.

However, remember, the so-called affirmitive action may get you in the door at a Tier-1 school, but your hard work and studying keep you there. So even if you supposedly got in because of affirmative action and graduate, does that mean you should've been there all along?
Boy republicans and that black thing
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Old 09-27-2011, 01:40 PM
 
Location: California
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UC Berkeley Republicans hold 'Diversity Bake Sale' on campus | abc7news.com
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Old 09-27-2011, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Holly Springs, NC USA
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Boy liberals and that diversity thing! Placing everyone into buckets based on the differences, now that is progress.

These Berkeley students are out to prove that they care about race.....as in, the human race and that should be the bottom line.
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:04 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Boy liberals and that diversity thing! Placing everyone into buckets based on the differences, now that is progress.

These Berkeley students are out to prove that they care about race.....as in, the human race and that should be the bottom line.
To compare what these young repugs are doing, you'd have to compare sell two different sets of cookies, those that have ALL of the ingredients (white) and those that lack some ingredients like sugar, (disadvantaged minority). That would be a more apt comparison.
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