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Old 10-12-2011, 09:58 AM
 
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Yeah, let me read all 1400 comments for the list of demands that were already discredited and that you only want to continue harping on because it makes the protesters look like a bunch of people waiting for handouts.
It IS a bunch of people looking for handouts.

n+1: #occupywallstreet


OWS: Protesters Give Their Demands to Reporter - YouTube

If OWS were serious about what you 'claim' their purpose is, they'd realize that corrupt politicians are the problem. Wall Street, etc., is effectively neutered without the corrupt politicians.

The protest belongs in D.C., on Capitol Hill, and at the White House. Wall Street, etc., would have NO influence whatsoever if Obama, Geithner, Dodd, Frank, etc., and their corrupt band of politicians would just say no to being bought.
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:01 AM
 
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Oh ,and just FYI, THEY ARE PROTESTING IN DC, IN FRONT OF FEDERAL BUILDINGS
Great! Move them ALL off of Wall Street and TO D.C., Capitol Hill, and the White House!

None of what you 'claim' they're protesting could have happened without the corrupt politicians.
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:05 AM
 
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It IS a bunch of people looking for handouts.

n+1: #occupywallstreet


OWS: Protesters Give Their Demands to Reporter - YouTube

If OWS were serious about what you 'claim' their purpose is, they'd realize that corrupt politicians are the problem. Wall Street, etc., is effectively neutered without the corrupt politicians.

The protest belongs in D.C., on Capitol Hill, and at the White House. Wall Street, etc., would have NO influence whatsoever if Obama, Geithner, Dodd, Frank, etc., and their corrupt band of politicians would just say no to being bought.
Yep, this argument has become circular. You ignore my comments on lobbying and campaign finance reform, and you continue to pretend that Obama, Geithner, Dodd, and Frank, are the only individuals in the conversation. The Republicans are as bad, if not worse, and it is not as simple as "saying no". We're saying the same things over and over again, and I realize you'll never agree with me (lmao at believing that Wall Street will ever have "no influence" without fundamental campaign finance reform and lobbying reform, at least), so we're done here.

lol at you not even realizing that they're protesting in D.C. You scramble to rebut my comments, but you don't even know what's going on. Talking to you is a profound waste of time.
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:18 AM
 
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Yep, this argument has become circular. You ignore my comments on lobbying and campaign finance reform, and you continue to pretend that Obama, Geithner, Dodd, and Frank, are the only individuals in the conversation. The Republicans are as bad, if not worse
Um... NO.

Not. Even. Close.

Guess, I'll have to remind you...
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The president has packed his economic team with Wall Street insiders intent on turning the bailout into an all-out giveaway
Obama's Big Sellout: The President has Packed His Economic Team with Wall Street Insiders | Common Dreams

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"Everything's f**ked up, and nobody goes to jail" - former Senate investigator

"The betrayal that this represents by Obama to everybody is just we're not ready to believe it," says Budde, a classmate of the president from their Columbia days. "He's really f**king us over like that? Really?"
Why Isn't Wall Street in Jail? | Politics News | Rolling Stone

Obama and his band of corrupt Wall Street puppet politician cronies have done FAR more damage than anyone else.
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:22 AM
 
Location: NJ
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so wall st got rich providing services people wanted?
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:24 AM
 
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so wall st got rich providing services people wanted?
Yes, but they also received lucrative advantages from corrupt politicians. As previously noted, Obama has been the worst in that regard, BY FAR.
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Southwest Desert
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I'm old. I grew up in an era when the free enterprise system was open to everyone. Anyone could open-up a store or restaurant or business in their hometown and do well...This was before the big corporations took over and opened-up outlets in every city across the country...The "name brand outlets" put "mom and pop" stores and cafes out of business...And today our pensions and retirement funds are tied to corporations through our 401k's and the stock market. This wasn't always the case... It's hard to "make a go of it" as a small business owner today and compete against the big corporations who "own" our hometowns.
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