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Old 11-01-2011, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Produce - verb (used with object)
1.
to bring into existence; give rise to; cause: to produce steam.
2.
to bring into existence by intellectual or creative ability: to produce a great painting.
3.
to make or manufacture: to produce automobiles for export.

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Old 11-01-2011, 12:02 PM
 
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I sincerely doubt you produce anything either. You're an engineer. You click buttons, or push a pencil, all day. Then SOMEONE ELSE produces it.

Having been married to an engineer for almost 20 years, and being surrounded by them for that entire time, I think calling non-engineers "arrogant" is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black.
Wow... just wow.
You were married to an engineer for 20 years and don't even know the difference between an engineer and a financial analyst.

And by the way honey, all engineers are different. Mechanical engineers differ drastically from production engineers and what they do.
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I sincerely doubt you produce anything either. You're an engineer. You click buttons, or push a pencil, all day. Then SOMEONE ELSE produces it.

Having been married to an engineer for almost 20 years, and being surrounded by them for that entire time, I think calling non-engineers "arrogant" is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black.
Clearly, being married to an engineer hasn't given you a single clue about what engineers are expected to deliver.
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I sincerely doubt you produce anything either. You're an engineer. You click buttons, or push a pencil, all day. Then SOMEONE ELSE produces it.

Having been married to an engineer for almost 20 years, and being surrounded by them for that entire time, I think calling non-engineers "arrogant" is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black.
Engineers design bridges, electronics and mechanical devices.

Apart from designing things or building things, Wall Street has proven that they are effective at profiting when they destroy the economy and put millions of people out of work.
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:04 PM
 
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#OccupyWhiteHouse2012 | From the Desk of Lady Liberty

We are Wall Street. It’s our job to make money. Whether it’s a commodity, stock, bond, or some hypothetical piece of fake paper, it doesn’t matter. We would trade baseball cards if it were profitable. I didn’t hear America complaining when the market was roaring to 14,000 and everyone’s 401k doubled every 3 years. Just like gambling, its not a problem until you lose. I’ve never heard of anyone going to Gamblers Anonymous because they won too much in Vegas.

Well now the market crapped out, & even though it has come back somewhat, the government and the average Joes are still looking for a scapegoat. God knows there has to be one for everything. Well, here we are.

Go ahead and continue to take us down, but you’re only going to hurt yourselves. What’s going to happen when we can’t find jobs on the Street anymore? Guess what: We’re going to take yours. We get up at 5am & work until 10pm or later. We’re used to not getting up to pee when we have a position. We don’t take an hour or more for a lunch break. We don’t demand a union. We don’t retire at 50 with a pension. We eat what we kill, and when the only thing left to eat is on your dinner plates, we’ll eat that.

For years teachers and other unionized labor have had us fooled. We were too busy working to notice. Do you really think that we are incapable of teaching 3rd graders and doing landscaping? We’re going to take your cushy jobs with tenure and 4 months off a year and whine just like you that we are so-o-o-o underpaid for building the youth of America. Say goodbye to your overtime, and double time and a half. I’ll be hitting grounders to the high school baseball team for $5k extra a summer, thank you very much.

So now that we’re going to be making $85k a year without upside, Joe Mainstreet is going to have his revenge, right? Wrong! Guess what: we’re going to stop buying the new 80k car, we aren’t going to leave the 35 percent tip at our business dinners anymore. No more free rides on our backs. We’re going to landscape our own back yards, wash our cars with a garden hose in our driveways. Our money was your money. You spent it. When our money dries up, so does yours.

The difference is, you lived off of it, we rejoiced in it. The Obama administration and the Democratic National Committee might get their way and knock us off the top of the pyramid, but it’s really going to hurt like hell for them when our fat a**es land directly on the middle class of America and knock them to the bottom.

We aren’t dinosaurs. We are smarter and more vicious than that, and we are going to survive. The question is, now that Obama & his administration are making Joe Mainstreet our food supply…will he? and will they?”


As IF, taking the tax rates back to the Clinton Admin....when wallstreet was doing fantastic.....would hurt you. Are we supposed to believe that?



Read more: Traders Respond in Epic Letter to 'Occupy Chicago' - Wall Street Protests - Fox Nation

I agree with them and all these lazy people who are holding up their hands for free bailouts, should use some common sense but that is not too common any more!
No one is looking for free bailouts. They are looking for a return to fairness. The upper 1% has stolen/cheated/and trashed middle class America...their incomes have increased 279% while avearge citizens incomes have gone up 72% in the past decade or so. The gap has simply become TOO wide.....we don't expect that you will be mowing anyone's lawn in the near future by ANYTHING the Obama Admin has proposed!
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:08 PM
 
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OWS should be focusing on the largest banks and the elected representatives who voted to bail them out, period.

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...Yet Mayo said capitalism itself did not cause the crisis.

"We've had butchered capitalism. This is not capitalism," he said. "Capitalism didn't fail. Not having capitalism is what caused the system to break down. Capitalism is having many eyes looking at the market acting on what they see, and being incented to act."
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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OWS should be focusing on the largest banks and the elected representatives who voted to bail them out, period.

News Headlines
Mark Cuban has a different take on the subject. In his opinion, OWS should focus on "shareholders" who happen to be the excuse the crooks running the show at Wall Street use:

"Every CEO tells the same great white lie. It is at the heart of every communication. It is at the heart of every financial decision. It is, at it’s very base, the reason why you all are in the 99pct and they are in the 1pct. The Lie ?

Great CEO White Lie = “We are acting in the best interests of shareholders.”

When a CEO utters this lie, everyone automatically forgives whatever they do. Add 10k jobless to the unemployment rolls ? Sorry, we did it in the BEST INTEREST OF SHAREHOLDERS. Merge or buy a company and cut back across the board ? We did it in the Best Interest of Shareholders.

The problem is that unless the company is losing money and it is the only way to keep the company alive, in this era of 9.1pct unemployment it NEVER is in the BEST INTEREST OF SHAREHOLDERS."

My Soapbox Advice to the OWS Movement
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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No one is looking for free bailouts. They are looking for a return to fairness. The upper 1% has stolen/cheated/and trashed middle class America...their incomes have increased 279% while average citizens incomes have gone up 72% in the past decade or so. The gap has simply become TOO wide.....we don't expect that you will be mowing anyone's lawn in the near future by ANYTHING the Obama Admin has proposed!
Actually, the top 0.1% is where the staggering disparity is. While the top 1% earn ~17% of the income, half of that is concentrated in the top 0.1%.

The Top 1% vs Bottom 99%:




The Top 0.1% vs The 99% - 99.9%:


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Old 11-01-2011, 12:58 PM
 
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Engineers design bridges, electronics and mechanical devices.

Apart from designing things or building things, Wall Street has proven that they are effective at profiting when they destroy the economy and put millions of people out of work.
So you are saying that the rise in investment value that the middle class lived fat off of since 1970 was 'nothing'?

Wall Street brought the economy up far beyond what it ever could be, and you and I cheered them on while they could make us money. Shame on us for turning our backs as soon as things go a little south.
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Old 11-01-2011, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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So you are saying that the rise in investment value that the middle class lived fat off of since 1970 was 'nothing'?

Wall Street brought the economy up far beyond what it ever could be, and you and I cheered them on while they could make us money. Shame on us for turning our backs as soon as things go a little south.
You're assuming that Wall Street works today as it was meant to be, and did in the 1960s and 70s. Take a look at this blog and share your take on it, where you agree/disagree with this billionaire investor:

What Business is Wall Street in?
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