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There is a big divide between Conservatives and Liberals but in my opinion most of that is not in regards to what the problems arebut how they should be fixed. If you take the Tea Party and the OWS crowd the basis for their complaints is the same to some degree. Who could agree with the following.
1. A lot of our government is corrupt, both Republicans and Democrats.
2. Our Government spends way too much money.
3. Special interests both Republican and Democratic causes carry far too much weight in the decisions our leaders make.
4. The tax system is broke and taxes far too high both personal and business.
5. The education system is broken.
6. Religion, Gays and other similar social issues..... Your business, not mine until you get in my face about it.
7. Both laws for citizens and regulations for business are far too many.
If you can't answer yes to everyone of these question please answer no. I've no doubt this will turn into political bickering but lets try an avoid that? What we need in this topic is finding out what the common ground is.
there is a big divide between conservatives and liberals but in my opinion most of that boils down not what the problems are but how they should be fixed. If you take the tea party and the ows crowd the basis for their complaints is the same to some degree. Who could agree with the following.
1. A lot of our government is corrupt, both republicans and democrats.
2. Our government spends way too much money.
3. Special interests both republican and democratic causes carry far too much weight in the decisions our leaders make.
4. The tax system is broke and taxes far too high both personal and business.
5. The education system is broken.
6. Religion, gays and other similar social issues..... Your business, not mine until you get in my face about it.
7. Both laws for citizens and regulations for business are far too many.
If you can't answer yes to everyone of these question please answer no. I've no doubt this will turn into political bickering but lets try an avoid that? What we need in this topic is finding out what the common ground is.
This has nothing to do with common ground, it's just pretty standard Republican fare, setting aside half of # 3 and (debatably) # 6.
I don't want to derail this into partisan bickering and I think you might be surprised this is the views of most centrists. Let's start with #1. I could assume you feel that only Republicans are corrupt? If someone can't answer yes to #1 it's clear they would be on the ultra fringe regardless of their ideology.
1. A lot of our government is corrupt, both Republicans and Democrats. The people are as corrupt as the government, electing those who bribe them the most - with 'benefits', etc.
2. Our Government spends way too much money. Technically speaking, "dollar bills" being notes, are not money. There has been no lawful money in circulation since 1933.
3. Special interests both Republican and Democratic causes carry far too much weight in the decisions our leaders make. We have the best Congress bribery can buy.
4. The tax system is broke and taxes far too high both personal and business. According to the law, rights are not subject to taxation. But when over 300 million "human resources" surrender their rights, and volunteer to be collateral on the public debt - hoo - wheeeee !
5. The education system is broken. I presume you mean the "credential dispensing system". Education can be acquired any place, time, or manner, but not credentials.
6. Religion, Gays and other similar social issues..... Your business, not mine until you get in my face about it. People have rights until they surrender them, and become subject to and object of the rules and regulations limited in applicability to those who consent.
7. Both laws for citizens and regulations for business are far too many. Blame that on national socialism (1935) and the imposition of total Federal authority, via FICA and the bankruptcy (State of Emergency, 1933).
1. A lot of our government is corrupt, both Republicans and Democrats. The people are as corrupt as the government, electing those who bribe them the most - with 'benefits', etc.Nobody voted for "this". Obama lied more than Joe Isuzu, but at this point it's just not nearly as funny. Nobody asked for this.
2. Our Government spends way too much money. Technically speaking, "dollar bills" being notes, are not money. There has been no lawful money in circulation since 1933.Agreed, but this is the monetary system we have.
3. Special interests both Republican and Democratic causes carry far too much weight in the decisions our leaders make. We have the best Congress bribery can buy.Agreed, but the problem is the folks who would put laws in place to prevent it are the same folks accepting the bribes.
4. The tax system is broke and taxes far too high both personal and business. According to the law, rights are not subject to taxation. But when over 300 million "human resources" surrender their rights, and volunteer to be collateral on the public debt - hoo - wheeeee !I guess it seemed like a good idea at the time. However, it's all we have right now.
5. The education system is broken. I presume you mean the "credential dispensing system". Education can be acquired any place, time, or manner, but not credentials.As someone who is mostly self-educated in their field, AGREED. I've taught myself more than any institution ever could, but have no credentials for it. If I wanted to GET those credentials, I'd still have to pay for school and not a simple test. That alone proves it's a racket.
6. Religion, Gays and other similar social issues..... Your business, not mine until you get in my face about it. People have rights until they surrender them, and become subject to and object of the rules and regulations limited in applicability to those who consent.It's not that simple and you know it.
7. Both laws for citizens and regulations for business are far too many. Blame that on national socialism (1935) and the imposition of total Federal authority, via FICA and the bankruptcy (State of Emergency, 1933).I actually don't think we have too MANY. I think the problem is the laws for citizens and the laws for corporations are too far apart.
Merck kills approximately 50,000 people with Vioxx, and nobody goes to jail.
You're driving along and someone steps out into the road without looking. One thing leads to another and you end up getting prosecuted for vehicular homicide.
I actually don't think we have too MANY. I think the problem is the laws for citizens and the laws for corporations are too far apart.
You should of answered no then. The issue with regualtions of business boils down to quantity does not equal quality.In the example you provided If a company is going to put a product on the market like a drug that has potential deadly side effects but has great benefits as well you let the consumer decide. I believe the drug in question you mentioned was the same one I saw a woman pleading to Congress to keep on the market as it made her life livable, she was willing to take the risk. The only thing that is important is that she knows those risks. As far as the companies responsibilities go it should begins and end with them providing all the information they know about the drug, if they do not disclose that information then certainly jail time for those responsible would be justified.
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