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Old 11-12-2011, 04:09 AM
 
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Is there such a thing as an unemployed conservative?As all this talk of others being lazy,unmotivated freeloaders for availing themselves of government social programs in time of need is kinda easy while being all safe and secure with a nice job, what about when the conservative loses his job?how does he justify going on unemployment insurance and if no job is forthcoming by the end of UI will his moral superiority prevent him from taking food stamps or getting welfare assistance?, or when he gets older how does he justify using SS and Medicaid?
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Old 11-12-2011, 04:16 AM
 
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Central to the conservative worldview is a refusal to recognize that things are ever actually so bad that people don't have a choice. They don't oppose welfare because they hate poor people, they oppose welfare because they think that hardly anyone really needs welfare to survive, and anyone who can't pay their bills without assistance is either wasting money with poor spending decisions or too lazy/stupid to make enough money (because conservatives also think that income is linked to personal merit).

Entitled as they are, they basically can't really understand someone literally having no other choice but to receive welfare or turn to less-legal ways of earning money. They simply just do not realize that things are actually that bad in their beloved US of A, and they'd refuse to believe it if you told them because their worldview basically depends on the belief that things aren't absolutely horrible.

Much of this is based on the so-called "Just world hypothesis". In fact, most conservative beliefs can be traced to this:
What drives someone to be a conservative?


Fear.
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Old 11-12-2011, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Well maybe one needs to define what they call conservative. To me a conservative believes in balanced budget, fiscal responsibility, and personal accountability. Help those who cant help themselves, expect those who can to do for themselves.
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Old 11-12-2011, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Central to the conservative worldview is a refusal to recognize that things are ever actually so bad that people don't have a choice. They don't oppose welfare because they hate poor people, they oppose welfare because they think that hardly anyone really needs welfare to survive, and anyone who can't pay their bills without assistance is either wasting money with poor spending decisions or too lazy/stupid to make enough money (because conservatives also think that income is linked to personal merit).

Entitled as they are, they basically can't really understand someone literally having no other choice but to receive welfare or turn to less-legal ways of earning money. They simply just do not realize that things are actually that bad in their beloved US of A, and they'd refuse to believe it if you told them because their worldview basically depends on the belief that things aren't absolutely horrible.

Much of this is based on the so-called "Just world hypothesis". In fact, most conservative beliefs can be traced to this:
What drives someone to be a conservative? Exceptional intelligence.
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Old 11-12-2011, 06:03 AM
 
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We have The US Constitution.

What does the left have? Feelings?
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Old 11-12-2011, 06:05 AM
 
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Central to the conservative worldview is a refusal to recognize that things are ever actually so bad that people don't have a choice. They don't oppose welfare because they hate poor people, they oppose welfare because they think that hardly anyone really needs welfare to survive, and anyone who can't pay their bills without assistance is either wasting money with poor spending decisions or too lazy/stupid to make enough money (because conservatives also think that income is linked to personal merit).

Entitled as they are, they basically can't really understand someone literally having no other choice but to receive welfare or turn to less-legal ways of earning money. They simply just do not realize that things are actually that bad in their beloved US of A, and they'd refuse to believe it if you told them because their worldview basically depends on the belief that things aren't absolutely horrible.

Much of this is based on the so-called "Just world hypothesis". In fact, most conservative beliefs can be traced to this:
People like this drives me to be a conservative.. Just because things are bad in america, that doesnt mean liberalism is right if its liberalism causing things to be so dam bad
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Old 11-12-2011, 06:07 AM
 
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Is there such a thing as an unemployed conservative?As all this talk of others being lazy,unmotivated freeloaders for availing themselves of government social programs in time of need is kinda easy while being all safe and secure with a nice job, what about when the conservative loses his job?how does he justify going on unemployment insurance and if no job is forthcoming by the end of UI will his moral superiority prevent him from taking food stamps or getting welfare assistance?, or when he gets older how does he justify using SS and Medicaid?
Conservative doesnt mean you believe in abolishing all governmental programs, thats libertariansm.
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Old 11-12-2011, 06:08 AM
 
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Common sense. You don't spend money you don't have. People EARN what they get. Yes....some need welfare...but others make it a way of life.

Only a liberal minded person would think it is an awful thing to insist that people be RESPONSIBLE....and make their own way in life. If you need a hand, there isn't anyone who begrudges that. But if you take advantage of that generosity then that is a problem. If anything, the government should make people on welfare work for it. Picking up trash on roadways....painting over graffiti....repairing inner city buildings and streets. No work....no welfare.

Conservatism is based on common sense...which is something that the left seems to be sorely lacking in.
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Old 11-12-2011, 06:09 AM
 
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People like this drives me to be a conservative.. Just because things are bad in america, that doesnt mean liberalism is right if its liberalism causing things to be so dam bad
That is a great point.

American citizens are so ignorant (especially the left) that they are willing to negate their liberty for handouts.

We have the greatest government the world has ever seen based on The Constitution.

Frightened, stupid people will give up freedoms for a handout.
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Old 11-12-2011, 06:15 AM
 
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That is pretty interesting maybe true. Of course, it could just be a character flaw.
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More than likely mental illness
More examples as to why I'm glad to be a conservative.
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