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Old 11-13-2011, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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No, actually I said those jobs should pay a livable wage, which is a considerably different idea than "huge salary".

<---- right back at ya, baby!
Those jobs pay min wage..entry level to the job market.
Want to earn a livable wage then learn a skill and get a better paying job.

And you still have not defined your "livable wage" in spite of me asking 3 times now.
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Old 11-13-2011, 05:24 PM
 
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And it is for fast food jobs. They require zero skill hence the low pay.
They are entry level. Get some experience under your belt and move on and up, if not there then somewhere else.

But one should not expect to be a cashier at McD's with the hopes of earning $80K per year, benefits and retirement benefits.
They do actually require some skill. Easy to learn usually, but they're not mindless.

I worked as a cook and learned to BBQ, fry fish, prepare food for 20-30 people, learned how to cater an event. To this day I can knock out awesome double baked potatos and buffalo wings. So you can learn something. But it also teaches you humilty, so that when you're farther up the ladder you think about giving back.
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Old 11-13-2011, 05:25 PM
 
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Another reason government should get out of the healthcare business. Since they have become involved costs have skyrocketed. Technology reduces costs in the free market. In the managed market it has the opposite affect.
HC costs skyrocketed in the 1980s...guess who was president.
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Old 11-13-2011, 05:27 PM
 
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Those jobs pay min wage..entry level to the job market.
Want to earn a livable wage then learn a skill and get a better paying job.

And you still have not defined your "livable wage" in spite of me asking 3 times now.
Yes, I did. I'm not going to throw out numbers.
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Old 11-13-2011, 05:31 PM
 
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Um.

What?
Follow along now....

When you order a service, or go to someone who provides a service (hairdresser, for instance), do you pay a so called "going rate" for that service, or do you ask the person what their need is?

Um.
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Old 11-13-2011, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yes, I did. I'm not going to throw out numbers.
You said earlier it was about paying your bills.
So if someone wants to make McD's their "full time job" then they better stay single and live with Mom and Dad. Then they will have a livable wage.
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Old 11-13-2011, 05:35 PM
 
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I know several people with accounting degrees working in retail right now. They are trying to support their families on these ridiculous wages.

Get your head out of the sand.
It really sucks to be them. I really mean that. But every person that I know with an accounting degree is an accountant.

Every person that I know with a teaching degree is a teacher.

Every person I know with a law degree is a lawyer.

I realize that there are some who aren't employed in their chosen field, but the bottom line is this.....if you are good at what you do and have formed relationships and a network, you shouldn't be unemployed for long.
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Old 11-13-2011, 05:41 PM
 
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An honest day's pay for an honest day's work. I'm sad and angered this is now "expecting too much".
That is correct.

If you agree to $7.25 an hour, you should earn it honestly.
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Old 11-13-2011, 05:47 PM
 
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It's not that flipping burgers ever was a good-paying job or any of the other above. It's that people are saying these jobs weren't intended to be permanent. Who says they weren't?
I think that you miss the point.

If you are a person who is only capable of flipping burgers and wiping tables, you should live within those means. Work there forever if you like. But that doesn't mean that the person who invested in the business owes you more than the job is worth simply because your need is greater than someone else.
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Old 11-13-2011, 05:48 PM
 
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No, actually I said those jobs should pay a livable wage, which is a considerably different idea than "huge salary".

<---- right back at ya, baby!
Tell me why a 16 year old with no skill and no education should get a livable wage flipping burgers?
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