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Wait a minute, isn't this topic off limits? It was all good and constantly in the media up until the point it began to involve Nancy Pelosi. She claimed the CIA lied to her about waterboarding and then shortly afterwards at a new conference she declared:
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"I have made the statement that I'm going to make on this," she told reporters at a Capitol Hill news conference. "I don't have anything more to say about it. I stand by my comment."
Then the topic ceased to exist in the media. Nancy had spoken....and the media apparently was satisfied with her explanation....which made it very difficult for them to continue digging deeper into the topic to attack the Bush administration without continuing to further investigate Nancy's part in it.
If Nancy's name starts popping up again regarding waterboarding, she's going to be very upset.
Some of the sentiments expressed on this board simply show that terrorists have already won this struggle. They have managed to reduce us to the same uncivilized a-holes that they are.
I have no idea when it became alright to put people in physical duress or fear for their lives to extract information. After all, these methods are used on ALLEGED terrorists. In other words, on people who are potentially as innocent of terrorism as you, your children, or your spouse. Once upon a while, we carried due process on a high pedestal. No more - it's just a meaningly phrase.
If you condone these activities, you also condone that they are used on you. Perhaps they should offer free trials so that people can experience the methods they deem alright.
You also make the US one pathetic "civilized" nation.
Alas, to some, the end always justifies the means. I suppose the Gestapo had it right all along. I just don't know why we ever fought them. Yeah, yeah, I know - Reductio ad Hitlerum. That's all nice and dandy - except that torturing innocent people was just a-ok with them as well.
When it comes to these violent muslims, if torture(water boarding and etc) is necessary then I have no problem with it. I think it sends a message to our enemies.
The violent Muslims don't show any remorse or regret why should we?
Yes, it tells them and the World we are Not Honorable Men. When you get down to their level you have become them.
Alright. Torture generally means that we inflict prolonged physical or mental harm onto another person, does it not?
If waterboarding is not a method that uses fear for one's life or severe pain/discomfort to extract information, then how is it a successful method?
Do you think people simply spill the beans because they don't want to get wet?
it does no physical harm
I went though waterboarding many times, especially as an instructor for the Army SERE school
if we were to call everything that make someone 'uncomfortable' a torture..then many , many things would then be called torture to include country music
I went though waterboarding many times, especially as an instructor for the Army SERE school
if we were to call everything that make someone 'uncomfortable' a torture..then many , many things would then be called torture to include country music
So, it's just like I thought. Waterboarding is used as a potential means to extract information because people don't want to get wet or have their hair messed up. Alrighty, then.
BTW, claiming to be something or someone online is quite meaningless. Did you know that I am European Royalty, part of the 1%, have 124 million bucks in the bank, and that I speak 17 languages fluently?
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