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I'm not saying that if he does it it's ok for another to do it.
All I am saying is that those who want to point a stinky finger at the OWS people, they need to be aware that the same thing is happening on the other side as well.
Sure any report of a crime will be investigated. However, have you noticed how those with money get lesser punishment than those without?
I'm not saying that if he does it it's ok for another to do it.
All I am saying is that those who want to point a stinky finger at the OWS people, they need to be aware that the same thing is happening on the other side as well.
Sure any report of a crime will be investigated. However, have you noticed how those with money get lesser punishment than those without?
Where have you been lately? Who said we weren't aware of it? Enron was back in 2001-2002. The Jack Abramoff scandal was in 2006. What are you talking about? The OWS didn't bring these issues to light. They have been known for at least a decade now or more. And many people were upset with banks and lobbyists long before any of them started sleeping in a tent at a park..with their Starbucks in their hands!! I refuse to let the Occupy terrorist co-opt a feeling that was already felt by others and have the arrogance to think that they are the embodiment and representative of it.
Occupy terrorists eh?
How close are you to the people who are part of the occupation?
Not everyone there is a digenerate. What the media fails to report, and to no suprise, are the occupy locations that are functioning respectfully and have an open line of communication with government officials in their local.
It bothers me that some of the comments in these sorts of discussions lump everyone who is protesting into the catagory of criminals. Criminals come in all sizes.
So by your perception the grandmother at an occupy site, sitting quietly knitting in her chair with a sign telling her story is a terrorist.....nice.
Occupy terrorists eh?
How close are you to the people who are part of the occupation?
Not everyone there is a digenerate. What the media fails to report, and to no suprise, are the occupy locations that are functioning respectfully and have an open line of communication with government officials in their local.
It bothers me that some of the comments in these sorts of discussions lump everyone who is protesting into the catagory of criminals. Criminals come in all sizes.
So by your perception the grandmother at an occupy site, sitting quietly knitting in her chair with a sign telling her story is a terrorist.....nice.
If she does not violate any laws or civic codes and ordinances, then no. But you are judged by the company you keep.
I find it quite interesting how the far right defends corporate fascism in U.S.
It's because the fascist mentality is always with us, beneath the radar. There is nothing exotic about it. Think termites - working behind the walls until their damage becomes evident, then a "fine mess" to clean up.
Americans succumbed to a consumerist propaganda fog (courtesy of guess who) for years and paid no attention (yeah, politics is boring). Buying stuff is more fun than attending to the nation's business. There were warnings about this "care and feeding" of corporations. From Republican Dwight Eisenhower, whose concern at the time was the military-industrial complex:
** "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed".
** There are a number of things wrong with Washington. One of them is that everyone is too far from home".
This one is about vigilance:
** "We must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex".
And for the Fox millionaires:
** "When people speak to you about a preventive war, you tell them to go and fight it".
The corporate propaganda has always been that it can't happen here because America is different. Really?
Actually it is Wall St that doesn't like being defined for what they are. That is why they are willing to spend massive amounts of money in dirty tricks and lies.
A yes corporate lobbiest/ lawyers / and propagandists .... the Amerikan way!
Huh? How is anything that they have done a dirty trick or lie. Hey, if the OWS goons, didn't rape, rob, kill and, poop in the streets, you may have a point.
If she does not violate any laws or civic codes and ordinances, then no. But you are judged by the company you keep.
Maybe stupid people judge that way, courts don't...
There are murderers in the Tea Party, does that mean every TP member is a murderer, too?
Anyway, it said somewhere that the founding members of that lobbying company have worked for Boehner in the past
I hope the OWS people get organized and thus donations so they can hire PI's to investigate bankers and managers in return, I am sure there is a lot of dirt just waiting to be unearthed
I find it quite interesting how the far right defends corporate fascism in U.S.
I find it equally interesting that the far left says that corporations shouldn't be allowed to donate to political campaigns, but say nothing at all about unions and all the other special interest groups like GLADD, LGBT, Laraza, CBC, etc. are just fine to donate in your book. Aren't they ALL groups and not individuals like you guys like to say about corporations?
I find it equally interesting that the far left says that corporations shouldn't be allowed to donate to political campaigns, but say nothing at all about unions and all the other special interest groups like GLADD, LGBT, Laraza, CBC, etc. are just fine to donate in your book. Aren't they ALL groups and not individuals like you guys like to say about corporations?
* Oh the evil unions - Cut them off and leave corporate interests running the country. Right, Fox's view.... Fascism is certainly not dead in America.
* Do you even know what the "far left" is, or do you adopt the Fox definition of being anything to its own left (meaning moderate)? Krauthammer, and others, say that Clinton is a member of the "far left" - laughable and pathetic.
* Union contributions are paltry compared to those of multinational multi-billion dollar corporations. That's right - wealthy foreigners, including our enemies, can now pump as much money as they want into our elections, thanks to republican Citizens' United. What a great idea!
* Money in elections should be absent from BOTH sides, but Republicans will never allow it because they get most of it (their base being the 1%).
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