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Old 11-30-2011, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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I heard this morning that 13 days into the 60 day recall petition, Wisconsin voters have collected more than half of the 540,000 signatures required for the recall.

Walker will learn the hard way that spitting all over the middle class isn't good policy. Neither is running on one agenda (jobs), then taking office and advancing a stealth agenda (demonizing teachers, cops, and firefighters) that's unpopular will shorten one's political lifespan.

But then the guy just doesn't look or sound very bright. And his state is certainly expressing some strong "buyer's remorse."
Im surprised he was ever even elected...only a high school education lol...equals perfect corporate puppet.
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Old 11-30-2011, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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I wonder if people have any idea of how tentative employment was for teachers before there were unions. Do they know how many times teachers lost their jobs because they didn't give high grades to the children of influential people? Do they know that before unions there was a time when female teachers were fired if they married and also when even married female teachers were routinely fired if they became pregnant. Do they know that teachers were expected to scrub the floors and clean the toilets in addition to teaching? Do they know that if a teacher somehow annoyed a member of the public they could be and often were fired just on the basis of one complaint? Do they know that in some areas teachers were paid very little salary and were expected to live with one of the student's parent with their room and board being counted as part of their salary? Every town had their own rules that were subject to change everytime the council in charge changed and teachers were expected to teach, dress, and live their lives at the whim of these councils. Really, seriously, do yourselves a favor and read some of the history of how teachers were treated before unions. Sometimes I think that some unions go a little too far now days. However, when you consider how teachers had to live before the unions, I'll take the unions any day.
agree 100%. Scrub floors , and you have a Masters in teaching?. Thats beyond ridiculous.

People who advocate for home schooling live in a bubble, or dont have kids. Home schooling will not get them a decent job.
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Old 11-30-2011, 10:04 AM
 
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You get an F for (lack) of effort.
i'll take that as a compliment. mwah!
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Walker needs to take a long walk, preferably across the state line.

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Unfortunately for Walker — and for the state that suffers under his misdirection — the measure has been made.
And the governor has been proven wrong. Way wrong.
The October jobs figures for the United States were just released. Illinois led the nation in job creation, adding 30,000 new jobs.
And what about Wisconsin?
Under Walker, Wisconsin now leads the nation in job losses.
In fact, of the states that the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics described as experiencing “statistically significant unemployment changes” in October, only one actually lost jobs: Wisconsin.
Wisconsin lost 9,700 jobs in October, almost all of them in the private sector.

Read more: John Nichols: Under Walker, Wisconsin is No. 1 job loser
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:36 PM
 
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Another Tea Partier tool bites the dust. Good riddance. Now if we could only get rid of Rick Scott in my state of Florida, this guy looks like Gollum and Slenderman's illegitimate child.
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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agree 100%. Scrub floors , and you have a Masters in teaching?. Thats beyond ridiculous.

People who advocate for home schooling live in a bubble, or dont have kids. Home schooling will not get them a decent job.
Home schooled kids are MUCH smarter than what our public schools pump out. Heck, I know plenty of people who got USELESS degrees from top universities and work at 7-11. What can you possibly do with a history major or an English major? Teach? That's about it folks.......
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:43 PM
 
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Home schooled kids are MUCH smarter than what our public schools pump out. Heck, I know plenty of people who got USELESS degrees from top universities and work at 7-11. What can you possibly do with a history major or an English major? Teach? That's about it folks.......
You should read some of Malcom Gladwell's books that touch on this subject. Being smart is overrated, although Home schooled kids are smarter, most of them lack the strong social qualities and personalities to take advantage of their intelligence to get ahead in life.
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:48 PM
 
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You should read some of Malcom Gladwell's books that touch on this subject. Being smart is overrated, although Home schooled kids are smarter, most of them lack the strong social qualities and personalities to take advantage of their intelligence to get ahead in life.
You want to talk about social qualities in today's youth? They HAVE NONE! They are losing it by the text message and facebook post. Kids don't know how to socialize anymore, all they know is how to grow a giant thumb for texting and manipulate a FB page. They have no personalities anymore, just whiners who want a corner office on the upper floors making 6 digit incomes from day 1. Social qualities, personalities and intelligence do not belong in the same sentence when referring to today's youth.
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:53 PM
 
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You want to talk about social qualities in today's youth? They HAVE NONE! They are losing it by the text message and facebook post. Kids don't know how to socialize anymore, all they know is how to grow a giant thumb for texting and manipulate a FB page. They have no personalities anymore, just whiners who want a corner office on the upper floors making 6 digit incomes from day 1. Social qualities, personalities and intelligence do not belong in the same sentence when referring to today's youth.
lolwut? That's a pretty strong generalization there. All I am saying is that, being smart isn't everything. You need strong social qualities to go with it. Look at Steve Jobs and Bill Gates, both college drop outs. If I'm correct the guy who started Dell computers didn't even have a high school diploma, and Richard Branson, the owner of Virgin is dyslexic and didn't even finish school period. But what did they all have in common?....they had ambition, and strong social qualities, but they weren't the smartest people.
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:54 PM
 
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Walker needs to take a long walk, preferably across the state line.




Read more: John Nichols: Under Walker, Wisconsin is No. 1 job loser
What you are doing to statistics here is like thinking that cooking a turkey 4 hours at 350degrees is the same thing as cooking it 4 minutes at 2100degrees.

Just stop. Replace Walker or whatever....I really don't care....just stop trying to use statistics and analysis. Watching the attempts is like watching a pack of chimpanzees being handed loaded guns.
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