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Old 01-23-2012, 08:33 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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If he would have obeyed the rules for flying then he wouldn't have been detained. If he doesn't want to go through the TSA then maybe he should fly in a private plane.
He did fly,he did not get a pat down,he went through the scanner.
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Old 01-23-2012, 08:34 PM
 
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http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-10...-107publ71.htm

(7) enforce security-related regulations and requirements;

TSA says if you alarm on the scanner you need a pat-down to get on the plane, and since they are given the power by law to establish and enforce the regulations then you are indeed forced to submit to a whole body pat-down if they deem it in the best interests of fulfilling their mandate.
As I understand it TSA screeners are not a law enforcement personel. They can call law enforcement to a gate for problems but they themselves have no law enforcement power.

There were no specifics as to the pat down in your link. He went through the scanner. Showed the area of his body they questioned (leg & knee) by lifting his pantleg and lowering his sock. Then, he refused the full body pat down.

Yet, after 1/5 hrs. of detainment they allowed him to go back through a scanner that picked up NOTHING. Common sense would lend allowing him to go back through the scanner a second time after showing that he had nothing of alarm under his trouser leg or sock. He never had to have the pat down in the end. So, it would appear that TSA tried to force something which was not actually written policy; or, they violated their policy by allowing the Senator on a second flight by allowing him to pass through a scanner without the pat down the second time.
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Old 01-23-2012, 08:34 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Maybe you are confused. After he decided to let them do their job he got through to board the plane but he didn't want to do that after the scanner went off. Did you read anything?
The TSA did not pat him down,Paul went through the scanner and boarded the plane.
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Old 01-23-2012, 08:35 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-10...-107publ71.htm

(7) enforce security-related regulations and requirements;

TSA says if you alarm on the scanner you need a pat-down to get on the plane, and since they are given the power by law to establish and enforce the regulations then you are indeed forced to submit to a whole body pat-down if they deem it in the best interests of fulfilling their mandate.
Except Paul did not get a pat down...and he flew.
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Old 01-23-2012, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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Perhaps you don't realise Paul did indeed go through the scanner and did indeed board a plane and fly to DC?
Oh so he's just whinning for nothing. Got it.
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Old 01-23-2012, 08:59 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Oh so he's just whinning for nothing. Got it.
No.

I am surprised you know so little on the topic but are posting.
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:06 PM
 
Location: FL
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He did fly,he did not get a pat down,he went through the scanner.
Really? How many times?
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:09 PM
 
Location: FL
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No.

I am surprised you know so little on the topic but are posting.
Seems that you didn't read it the well as we know that he went through the scanner twice. Got it now?
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:09 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Really? How many times?
Twice.
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:40 PM
 
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The object on his person picked up by the scanner has been identified as a pocket Constitution. They have called in the bomb squad and a hazmat team to neutralize the terrorist tool.
It's not even that deep, nor was TSA created under that kind of mindset.

You guys are extreme with these Anti-Constitution views and how you accuse TSA's creation of being based on those ideas.

I can tell you from my work with TSA that each individual has a serious approach to their job and their understanding is that they are doing their job to prevent a terrorist attack and to prevent people from harming others on the plane.

With that said, I don't understand the generalization of TSA. Also, there is a lot of straight-to-the-point instruction and training on what to do to mitigate a threat. There are special instructions on how to take the "freedoms" away from passengers or conspiracies like that.
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