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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you the poster from a different thread, who read a book given to middle and high schoolers called, "NorwegianWood" and defended that book as not graphic and non-objectionable for school kids?
I will correct you and you are wrong, since I haven't read that book yet... but again, parents should be reading these books if they are so concerned. I'm not a parent nor am I a teacher, so the burden of "proof" really doesn't lay on me anyway. But why are you depending on OTHER people's recommendations? I assume you can read pretty well, so a young adult book shouldn't take much time for you to finish!
I'm sure they were, LOL Only difference is they weren't described in books assigned for students to read for class.
Yes they were... I could name many "classics" that contain graphic sexual content, from rape to pedophilia to everything else you could imagine. Do you all honestly think this is a new phenomenon? If so, you either have a selective memory or you're being purposefully deceitful.
And I'll ask you the same question I've asked others, despite the fact that nobody has answered - have YOU read this book yet? If not, how do you know what it contains, or whether the overall content is appropriate & valid in a classroom setting? I haven't read it myself, which is why I've refrained from passed judgement one way or another (on this specific title, at least). But I do have it in my possession now, and will begin reading it tonight.
"When Vincent's 14-year old daughter began reading the book, she became upset. Vincent couldn't believe the actions described by one of the literary characters."
"She was masturbating and (describing) how to masturbate and how she did it and also giving a boy a (expletive) and going into great detail of how to perform it," said Vincent."
I will correct you and you are wrong, since I haven't read that book yet... but again, parents should be reading these books if they are so concerned. I'm not a parent nor am I a teacher, so the burden of "proof" really doesn't lay on me anyway. But why are you depending on OTHER people's recommendations? I assume you can read pretty well, so a young adult book shouldn't take much time for you to finish!
Oh, I'm not. I have read enough of the books in question to know that the objections are usually valid despite the minimizing done on these boards. I trust this one will be no different. But, just to be fair, I have ordered it from Amazon and will report back on my findings, which may differ from yours. BTW, sorry for mixing you up with another poster regarding the Norwegian Wood book. But, I'm curious, assuming my description of it is correct, would you think that book would be appropriate for public school reading? Here, again, is the description of the book.
That was the book that described in great detail over the course of 3 or 4 pages, a sex scene between a 13 year old girl and a middle aged mother. The book carefully described the girl unfastening the woman's bra and feeling her breasts and performing oral sex on her and told how the woman liked the touch of the girl, comparing it favorably to that of her husband.
Oh, I'm not. I have read enough of the books in question to know that the objections are usually valid despite the minimizing done on these boards. I trust this one will be no different. But, just to be fair, I have ordered it from Amazon and will report back on my findings, which may differ from yours. BTW, sorry for mixing you up with another poster regarding the Norwegian Wood book. But, I'm curious, assuming my description of it is correct, would you think that book would be appropriate for public school reading? Here, again, is the description of the book.
That was the book that described in great detail over the course of 3 or 4 pages, a sex scene between a 13 year old girl and a middle aged mother. The book carefully described the girl unfastening the woman's bra and feeling her breasts and performing oral sex on her and told how the woman liked the touch of the girl, comparing it favorably to that of her husband.
First I'd have to know where/who that exact synopsis comes from, and then I'd have to know the context surrounding the scene... from what another poster (the one I believe you confused me with) said, it wasn't that graphic and had an important role in the overall themes of the novel. They also said it was displaying how manipulative the CHILD was, and that it was more of an "I'm going to get you in trouble" kind of situation. I really can't give my personal recommendation without reading it first, but in that context it seems okay for a high schooler - maybe not a middle schooler, though.
Example: If I simply told you "I'm going to assign a book which involves bigotry/racist slurs, domestic violence, and the incestuous rape of a child" - would you think that was appropriate for a high school student? Of course I'm describing The Color Purple, which has been assigned in classrooms for decades, and has won numerous prestigious awards. See where I'm going with that analogy?
I've read graphic excerpts and I found them unsuitable for high school aged children.
Context surrounding the passages should also be considered, but going with what you're saying as truth... if you feel it's inappropriate, then tell your children (if you have any) not to read it. Again, there were permission slips sent home in this case, which the father could have easily opted not to sign.
Btw, I just started perusing the book, and it's definitely geared towards a teen reader - almost like Diary of a Wimpy Kid or TTYL in terms of formatting & language. I haven't seen the "graphic" passages yet, but I don't see how this could be marketed to anyone BUT teens.
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