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Old 02-06-2012, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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Pretty much. What other choice do I have?

I've talked to some family members about it. If I was going to accept outside capital (in return for an ownership stake), it would have to be kept in the family.



You don't know that. This opportunity for arbitrage has a limited geographic range; it just so happens that the geographic area in which it can be realized is a place that most people aren't familiar with. So, there's a severe lack of competition, and an opportunity that has gone unrecognized.

But, even if you're right, and someone beats me to it -- there's nothing I can do about that.
But there is something you can do about it. You can attract investors and put your ideas into action. You are choosing not to try. That's your prerogative, but if you are going to do that, please stop complaining about how the rich are stopping you from realizing your dreams. The door is there, and it's even unlocked. You're refusing to grab the handle, turn it & pull, choosing instead to just complain about the closed door. Or maybe hoping the wind will blow it open.
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Old 02-06-2012, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I've, and it is why I question the insanity. It is why you've now begun the typical run around.


Creating demand via appeal is different though, it is still creating demand. A product won't be produced if there wasn't demand for it. Well, except in the right wing world, where goods are produced because the rich can afford to produce and hence they're the "job creators".
I'd argue there was no demand for tablets before Ipads created it. Netbooks & oversized pdas were tried and flopped. When Ipads came out, they were functionally just bigger but broken Iphones. But Apples fans went crazy when the Ipad was announced, snapped it up when it was released, and the industry followed.
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Old 02-06-2012, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I'd argue there was no demand for tablets before Ipads created it. Netbooks & oversized pdas were tried and flopped. When Ipads came out, they were functionally just bigger but broken Iphones. But Apples fans went crazy when the Ipad was announced, snapped it up when it was released, and the industry followed.
There was demand though, created or otherwise. This is different from Apple hell bent on producing something there is no demand for, but just because it has capital laying around.

Tablets were only a matter of time. We should have seen that coming ten years ago, with laptops gaining ground.
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:17 AM
 
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Ha, I used to do that to my parents, when I was about 7 years old. You know, cryptic answers, to disguise the fact that I was a 7 year old who didn't know what I was talking about.

I guess some people make this into a lifelong habit: if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh*t.
Your introspection is showing.
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:21 AM
 
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For the other idea, which is a business built around my personal skillset, this might work. I'd basically need to sell myself. The big challenge in that one is not so much capital, as it is clients. It does require some capital, but that's not a huge obstacle.
So what's the problem?
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:25 AM
 
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So what's the problem?
Problem with what? There is no problem with that idea. There is an obstacle, and that obstacle is that I haven't found any clients yet. This is proving to be a difficult obstacle to overcome.
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:26 AM
 
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Without the seed, there would be no plant, so to speak.

As much as it disturbs you, the rich do create the jobs in America.
No, they don't and another banal post with no support for it isn't going to change that. They have one element that is necessary, being of a lower marginal propensity to consume allows one to increase wealth. Wealth allows one to divert resources not dedicated to subsistence. That is not the big picture for all that is necessary.

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Old 02-06-2012, 11:27 AM
 
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But there is something you can do about it. You can attract investors and put your ideas into action.
Like I said, I don't want to give away my idea for free.

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You are choosing not to try.
That's not true. I'm raising my own capital. It is just going to take a few decades.

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That's your prerogative, but if you are going to do that, please stop complaining about how the rich are stopping you from realizing your dreams. The door is there, and it's even unlocked. You're refusing to grab the handle, turn it & pull, choosing instead to just complain about the closed door. Or maybe hoping the wind will blow it open.
These are all hollow metaphors which bear little relationship to what I'm dealing with. The bottom line, relative to this thread, is that the source of capital is the Federal Reserve, and I can't borrow from the Federal Reserve.
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:28 AM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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The big lie, "rich people create jobs"....





Of course not! We all know that the poor create the jobs in this country.
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Purgatory
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Rich people don't create jobs.

Demand creates jobs.
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