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it is immoral to give money to corporations so they can go and give it to their cronies the lobbyist republicans. for that sole reason lobbyists should be abolish destroy!! they are political no more about america!!
Speaking of auto plants I once again ask, If Right to Work works, then why did the GM plant close in Oklahoma, a Right to Work state? It did so during Bush's recession.
Because the plant was a typical, high-cost union shop complete with anti-productivity work rules and contractual wages in excess of the value of the labor. It's pretty simple.
Stillwater, If unions offer a good service, RTW is not a threat to them. But alas they don't, and in most RTW states, a minority of employees opt to join the union racket.
Perhaps someday unions will wake up, offer a good service that is conducive to steady employment and win-win environments, and grow again. But I would not bet they would change to doing that, and unless they do, RTW states will grow in number and population.
Stillwater, If unions offer a good service, RTW is not a threat to them. But alas they don't, and in most RTW states, a minority of employees opt to join the union racket.
Then Right to Work Hucksters better be careful of what they wish for. Passing Right to Work may make unions work harder than ever to represent workers in hopes they won't see fit to drop their union memberships. If the main point of bringing in Right to Work is to get rid of labor unions, then it could backfire.
Then why is it so right that workers in a unionized workplace, who don't pay a dime into a union, get to have full representation by the union after such workers file grievances against the company? How is this so right and so fair to the union? People need to wake up and see that the main point to passing right to work is so the company boss can do as he pleases in running roughshod over the union contract once enough workers can be persuaded to drop union membership so the union won't have enough money to legally challenge the boss's moves.
Why do unions have to push their services upon us. I don't want to be represented. If unions insist on representing me, why should I pay for that?
Then Right to Work Hucksters better be careful of what they wish for. Passing Right to Work may make unions work harder than ever to represent workers in hopes they won't see fit to drop their union memberships. If the main point of bringing in Right to Work is to get rid of labor unions, then it could backfire.
If that is the case, what are you guys complaining about?
You get better unions, we don't have to join or pay for something we don't want or support.
Then Right to Work Hucksters better be careful of what they wish for. Passing Right to Work may make unions work harder than ever to represent workers in hopes they won't see fit to drop their union memberships. If the main point of bringing in Right to Work is to get rid of labor unions, then it could backfire.
High damn time the unions EARN their membership and dues rather than have it handed to them on a silver platter by the laws.
Something that strikes me as odd about right-to-work is that unions still have to represent non-union employees. Why are employees who don't pay union dues allowed to reap the benefits of having a union?
And from what I've read about right-to-work states, non-union employees are still bound by the union contract. So non-union employees still can't negotiate their own wage and benefits with the company?
From what I'm gathering so far, what a right-to-work law only really does is potentially weaken the union while giving the illusion of power to the worker. Something so absurd can't be right, can it? I'll keep researching.
Why do unions have to push their services upon us. I don't want to be represented. If unions insist on representing me, why should I pay for that?
Unions do not insist on representing you. Like all other workers, you get to vote on whether a union will represent you. Once the union is certified the union has a legally enforceable duty to represent you whether you are a member or not.
Perhaps someday unions will wake up, offer a good service that is conducive to steady employment and win-win environments, and grow again. But I would not bet they would change to doing that, and unless they do, RTW states will grow in number and population.
So let's see, unions are so powerful that they force employers to pay benefits that are too high and costly for the employer.
They also are so ineffective that they do nothing for workers,, so they need the law to protect them because otherwise workers wouldn't vote for them.
I guess consistency isn't your strong suit.
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