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Old 02-22-2012, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Florida
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No political party owns franchise to Christianity or any other religion. That includes both the Republican and Democratic party.

As a Christian, it is a HUGE turn-off to me when I hear a politician blabber on about Christian values when their actions don't reflect them.
Billy Graham is a democrat. But the democratic party was very different than it was years ago when Billy Graham decided to be a democrat.

Now the democratic party is so far left I don't recognize it as a party to help the unions or working man. It is now becoming a socialist leech that is draining the working man.
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Old 02-22-2012, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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I am not a victim. I am victorious. I am speaking of the end times. Actually the world is the demonic force. All Christians know that. Come on. Why are you as a Christian criticizing my faith? I am not criticizing your faith as a Christian.
But you are criticizing other Christians, and saying that CHristians who don't believe as you do aren't true Christians.
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Old 02-22-2012, 03:41 PM
 
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But you are criticizing other Christians, and saying that CHristians who don't believe as you do aren't true Christians.
Ok, what Christians did I criticize?
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Old 02-22-2012, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Florida
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What about Obama using the word of God to get people to pay more taxes... didn't Jesus say the tax collectors were heathens and sinners yet Obama uses Jesus to push his socialist agenda.
Jesus said we should pay our taxes, and Paul said in Romans 13 that God installs leaders to their position, and that we need to respect them, and pay our taxes. Paul wrote that in Rome when NERO was the leader of the nation, and as we know Nero fed Christians to the lions. Even Nero was raised by God for a purpose, and that purpose was to be the tyrant of the Roman empire.

But I am not here to argue who is the best Christian, I am here to say that it is best to leave it to God, since He is the only one who knows the hearts of people.


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God is pleased to hear Franklin Graham say what is in his heart without reservation. Graham could have lied but he told it like it is. Franklin Graham is a genuine true Christian
He took his comments back, so I am not sure about what you are saying.
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Old 02-22-2012, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Ok, what Christians did I criticize?
Obama.
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Jesus said we should pay our taxes, and Paul said in Romans 13 that God installs leaders to their position, and that we need to respect them, and pay our taxes. Paul wrote that in Rome when NERO was the leader of the nation, and as we know Nero fed Christians to the lions. Even Nero was raised by God for a purpose, and that purpose was to be the tyrant of the Roman empire.

But I am not here to argue who is the best Christian, I am here to say that it is best to leave it to God, since He is the only one who knows the hearts of people.




He took his comments back, so I am not sure about what you are saying.
Under pressure. Jesus said to be smart as serpents and harmless as doves. Jesus was also smart as he told the Pharisees we are to render to Caesar the taxes.. as God said it will go well with you to obey that which is evil and pay the government as they are in control.

This system of things is evil, corrupt and it will not stand much longer. We are in the world but not a part of it.

As you quoted... I agree but I see it differently. We are also to agree with our adversary before we are in front of the judge and be thrown into prison.


Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words. They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. "Teacher," they said, "we know you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren't swayed by men, because you pay no attention to who they are. Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not?"
But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, "You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? Show me the coin used for paying the tax." They brought him a denarius, and he asked them, "Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?"
Then he said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's."

When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away. (NIV)
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Obama.
Obama I pray will see the light. His Christian belief is grounded in the Black Liberation theology of James Hal Cone of which is a big stretch from the bible.
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:29 PM
 
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All of this talk about the religion of a candidate seeking election for public office makes me uncomfortable and perturbed. A politician's religious preferences have nothing to do with his or her qualification to serve.

Do we now have a new paradigm called "religious correctness"????

Does someone running for political office need to pass some kind of religious test?

Who cares if Romney is a Mormon or Santorum is Roman Catholic ... does that disqualify them? What about a candidate's other credentials: education, experience, public service, political philosophy, positions on specific issues?

There is smear campaign against Obama, and the Obama-haters are trying to insinuate he is not a Christian but a Muslim. Obama has professed to be a Christian. Historically the same bigotry was used against Franklin Delano Roosevelt; the Roosevelt-haters claimed FDR's real surname was Rosenfeld and he was secretly a Jew. A communistic, atheistic, perverted Jew. These people were Nazi-sympathizers.
I'm not sure its possible to be a member of the right wing and not be a hater/bully/bigot
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:32 PM
 
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Sure, these new people taking over supported by Our President are just the nicest guys He knew the Muslim Brotherhood was trying to come into power.
Muslim Brotherhood Spiritual Leader Tells Cairo Christians to Bow to Allah

Despite $1.5 billion in US aid, Egypt threatens prosecution of Americans - CSMonitor.com

Try being gay in a Muslim nation, recall Iran saying they have no gays,
Egyptian Gays and the Muslim Brotherhood: There

Libya's uncertain future (OneNewsNow.com)
Daniel Serwer, professorial lecturer and senior fellow at Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies, says it will take a long-term commitment from the U.S. and other nations to ensure that the new regime is less repressive than Gaddafi.

"Anybody who told the president of the United States that he could initiate military action in Libya and then walk away from it quickly was making a serious mistake," Serwer contends. "It just doesn't work that way, and I think there [are] going to be some hard choices to be made."

He believes the actions of Libyan rebels will likely cause dictators in the region to hold a stronger line against potential uprisings.

Franklin Graham has more Christianity in his little finger, than most have in their whole body!! You've got your head buried in the sand, because you live in a safe nation for now.
The reason you have a SAFE NATION is a direct result of that black president of yours keeping your butt safe! Obama killed Osama, poetic justice. Franklin Graham is an embarrasement to his father. His father would be wholly and completely ashamed of his latest antics.
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Under pressure. Jesus said to be smart as serpents and harmless as doves. Jesus was also smart as he told the Pharisees we are to render to Caesar the taxes.. as God said it will go well with you to obey that which is evil and pay the government as they are in control.

This system of things is evil, corrupt and it will not stand much longer. We are in the world but not a part of it.

As you quoted... I agree but I see it differently. We are also to agree with our adversary before we are in front of the judge and be thrown into prison.


Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words. They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. "Teacher," they said, "we know you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren't swayed by men, because you pay no attention to who they are. Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not?"
But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, "You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? Show me the coin used for paying the tax." They brought him a denarius, and he asked them, "Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?"
Then he said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's."

When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away. (NIV)
Romans 13:6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
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