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Old 02-26-2012, 06:25 PM
 
Location: NC
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It made me want to try to jump through the legal hoops required to open a simple lemonade stand in New York City. Here's some of what one has to do:

1) Register as sole proprietor with the County Clerk's Office (must be done in person)

2) Apply to the IRS for an Employer Identification Number

3) Complete 15-hr Food Protection Course!

4) After the course, register for an exam that takes 1 hr. You must score 70 percent to pass. (Sample question: "What toxins are associated with the puffer fish?") If you pass, allow 3-5 weeks for delivery of Food Protection Certificate.

5) Register for sales tax Certificate of Authority

6) Apply for a Temporary Food Service Establishment Permit. Must bring copies of the previous documents and completed forms to the Consumer Affairs Licensing Center.

Then, at least 21 days before opening your establishment, you must:

Arrange for an inspection with the Health Department's Bureau of Food Safety and Community Sanitation. It takes about 3 weeks to get your appointment. If you pass, you can set up a business once you:

- Buy a portable fire extinguisher from a company certified by the FDNY and set up a contract for waste disposal.

- We couldn't finish the process. Had we been able to schedule our health inspection and open my stand legally, it would have taken us 65 days.

I sold lemonade anyway. I looked dumb hawking it with my giant fire extinguisher on the table.
America, the land of burdensome regulations.
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Old 02-26-2012, 06:34 PM
 
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America, the land of burdensome regulations.
Ain't that the truth...
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Old 02-26-2012, 06:35 PM
 
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This post should be in the lemonade forum
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Old 02-26-2012, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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America, the land of burdensome regulations.
Helps ensure less competition for the brick and mortar lemonade purveyors. Open up one on the sidewalk in front of a brick and mortar shop and see who goes screaming and yelling to the government first.

[those regulations are a double-edged sword]
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:16 PM
 
Location: NC
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[those regulations are a double-edged sword]
Not really. It's a single-edged sword, and a sharp one at that, and aimed at you and I.

It is exactly these B&M lemonade purveyors who buy off the politicians to pass these onerous regulations. Most of the big guys in this business had opened their shops long before the regulations became very oppressive, so they don't have to go through these themselves. Or even if they have to, they have the resources to do it. So who goes broke trying to comply to all these regulations? Yup, us small guys who want to start our own small businesses. These regulations are exactly what creates monopolies. Liberals are up in arms about monopolies and want to break up monopolies, but they fail to see what creates the monopolies in the first place - regulations. Monopolies don't come about from thin air.
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:19 PM
 
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Not really. It's a single-edged sword, and a sharp one at that, and aimed at you and I.

It is exactly these B&M lemonade purveyors who buy off the politicians to pass these onerous regulations. Most of the big guys in this business had opened their shops long before the regulations became very oppressive, so they don't have to go through these themselves. Or even if they have to, they have the resources to do it. So who goes broke trying to comply to all these regulations? Yup, us small guys who want to start our own small businesses. These regulations are exactly what creates monopolies. Liberals are up in arms about monopolies and want to break up monopolies, but they fail to see what creates the monopolies in the first place - regulations. Monopolies don't come about from thin air.
Well, maybe little duller on their side but they do get cut with it.

[but I see where you're coming from]
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:19 PM
 
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Stossel!
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:21 PM
 
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America, the land of burdensome regulations.
New York City does not represent every city, county, and state in the United States. If you want to open a lemonade stand with fewer regulations, choose another city.
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:21 PM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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>New York City does not represent every city, county, and state in the United States. If you want to open a lemonade stand with fewer regulations, choose another city.<

Further

OR dont use a ridiculous example of a childs 1 day, not really a business, business being applied to real life regulations aimed at keeping the food you eat from being contaminated.

And/OR dont use one of the most expensive and difficult to deal with cities as an example of typical if say you wanted to be a hot dog vendor.
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:56 PM
 
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Regulation has killed New York City. It's impossible to make a buck there.
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