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Old 02-26-2012, 09:09 PM
 
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Until we have a way of forcing sterilzation/BC on those under the poverty line, then I'll support WIC.

It's not the children's fault their parents are poor, and they shouldn't have to suffer as a result of it.
So basically, you don't mind throwing money at irresponsibility? Because Americans are increasingly irresponsible, you're OK with throwing however much money is needed to help them with their irresponsibilty?

NO wonder this nation is ****ed. This is precisely the attitude that's dragging us down.
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:11 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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When my tax dollars are involved, I have a say in the matter. When the decay of the nation is at stake, I have a say in the matter. I'm sorry you don't quite get that.
Yeah, your $0.0005 you will contribute to them really gives you the right to dictate how they live their lives. Mmkay, if you say so!
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:12 PM
 
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Yeah, your $0.0005 you will contribute to them really gives you the right to dictate how they live their lives. Mmkay, if you say so!
Nice deflection.

What's your opinion on 8.9 million citizens willing exercising the height of personal irresponsibility? Any comment on that?

When can we expect Liberals to start railing against those who are dragging this nation down?
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:12 PM
 
Location: NJ
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"It's not the children's fault their parents are poor, and they shouldn't have to suffer as a result of it."

They already are suffering in many cases by not seeing any example of a work ethic inside the home. I'm not talking of the working poor here, but the almost NEVER working group.
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:14 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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So basically, you don't mind throwing money at the back-side or irresponsibility? Because Americans are increasingly irresponsible, you're OK with throwing however much money is needed to help them with their irresponsibilty?
When it keeps innocent children - who already exist and didn't choose their family situation - alive, fed & healthy? Yes, I absolutely do support such a program... and you guys call yourselves the party that supports life? How sadly ironic!

P.S. I'm a taxpayer too, in fact my family as a whole pays more taxes than most people earn annually - and we have no problem with a few of our pennies going to feed less fortunate children.
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:16 PM
 
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When it keeps innocent children - who already exist and didn't choose their family situation - alive, fed & healthy? Yes, I absolutely do support such a program... and you guys call yourselves the party that supports life? How sadly ironic!

P.S. I'm a taxpayer too, in fact my family as a whole pays more taxes than most people earn annually - and we have no problem with a few of our pennies going to feed less fortunate children.
The principle of the issue completely lost on you isn't it? We're not talking about CHILDREN. We're talking about PERSONAL IRRESPONSIBILITY.

Obtustity doesn't bode well for liberalism. Try harder.
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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So basically, you don't mind throwing money at irresponsibility? Because Americans are increasingly irresponsible, you're OK with throwing however much money is needed to help them with their irresponsibilty?.
I'm a socialist.

I want to have higher taxes across the board for a better quality of life.

What do you think?
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:18 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Nice deflection.

What's your opinion on 8.9 million citizens willing exercising the height of personal irresponsibility? Any comment on that?

When can we expect Liberals to start railing against those who are dragging this nation down?
How is that a deflection? You said your money is paying for these programs, so it's perfectly relevant to point out how LITTLE you are actually contributing - and how this tiny amount (or any amount, really) doesn't give you the right to control anyone's life.

When can we expect conservatives to start practicing what they preach, and actually support life? And for the religious righties, WWJD??
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:18 PM
 
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I'm a socialist.

I want to have higher taxes across the board for a better quality of life.

What do you think?
I think you're deflecting is what I think. Socialism and personal irresponsibilty are two different things.

Try again. You're not giving Socialists OR Liberals a good name with your refusal to discuss the topic.
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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I think you're deflecting is what I think. Socialism and personal irresponsibilty are two different things.

Try again. You're not giving Socialists OR Liberals a good name with your refusal to discuss the topic.
THat wasn't a deflection, that was an expansion of my position as to why I don't have an issue supporting lower income families.

Here's the thing: Lower income couples are going to fornicate. We will never be able to help that. Babies will result from that. And I'd rather we help those babies rather than throw them out on the streets.
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