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Old 07-06-2012, 08:25 AM
 
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Yes. The President even rolled out a plan for doing so. Then 90 Senators filled their pants in terror of the idea of the internees being transferred to Supermax facilities (which they can presumably overcome using their Special Terrorist Powers) and given something akin to a trial (which would turn farcical, because the CIA and military broke every rule in the book), so that got blocked right quick.

Gitmo is a classical GWB tarpit: The nation can only extricate itself with the greatest of trouble and there's no way of retaining dignity in the process.
First post. Bravo. BUT BUSH!!!!
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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I remember Obama wanting to cose it down but then I also remember repubs in congress whinning to no end about it so it wasn't. I am sure that republicans in congress had a hand in giving money to Gitmmo for the soccer field.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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First post. Bravo. BUT BUSH!!!!
The truth hurts doesn't it.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:38 AM
 
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The truth hurts doesn't it.
The sputtering end of the Obama administration’s plans to prosecute Khalid Sheik Mohammed in federal court came one day late last month in a conversation between the president and one of his top Cabinet members.

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. had called President Obama to inform him that he would be returning the case to the Defense Department, a decision that would mark the effective abandonment of the president’s promise to close the military detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

During the call, Obama did not press Holder to find a way to resurrect the federal prosecution of Mohammed and four co-defendants, according to senior administration officials familiar with the conversation. He did not object. Instead, he called it a pragmatic decision.


Guantanamo Bay: How the White House lost the fight to close it - The Washington Post

What it came down to is the fact that Obama came to the fight unarmed and is in over his head.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:40 AM
 
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Yes. The President even rolled out a plan for doing so. Then 90 Senators filled their pants in terror of the idea of the internees being transferred to Supermax facilities (which they can presumably overcome using their Special Terrorist Powers) and given something akin to a trial (which would turn farcical, because the CIA and military broke every rule in the book), so that got blocked right quick.

Gitmo is a classical GWB tarpit: The nation can only extricate itself with the greatest of trouble and there's no way of retaining dignity in the process.
So 90 Senators - all of the Republicans (obviously!) - refused to allow Obama to do what he promised to do.

And the whole thing is Bush's fault.


Uhh Huhh...
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So 90 Senators - all of the Republicans (obviously!) - refused to allow Obama to do what he promised to do.

And the whole thing is Bush's fault.


Uhh Huhh...
He got his stimulus passed, he got his obamacare passed. He could have gotten gitmo closed if it were that high of a priority.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It wasn't just Repubs that didn't want those detainees on US soil. Oh how quick we forget.

Guantanamo Bay: How the White House lost the fight to close it - The Washington Post
Administration officials lay blame for the failed initiative on Congress, including Democrats who deserted the president, sometimes in droves. The debate, they said, became suffused with fear — fear that transferring detainees to American soil would create a genuine security threat, fear that closing Guantanamo would be electoral suicide. Some Democratic lawmakers pleaded with the White House not to press too hard, according to administration officials.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:00 AM
 
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The U.S. military hopes to install a $40 million underwater fiber-optic cable that could improve communications at Guantanamo Bay, a military official said Thursday.

US military seeks installation of fiber-optic cable link for Guantanamo Bay base in Cuba - The Washington Post
From the article...

He said the cable would run 800 miles (1,290 kilometers) from Guantanamo Bay to South Florida and could start operating within two years.

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“We have plans to close the detention facility,” he said. “That remains our goal.”


uh - so which is it? Are we closing it or not? Are we putting this there and just blowing the money?

Or, are we doing this, then closing the base - allowing the communication link for the Cuban government to use?


By the way - Obama did have a favorable Congress for two years - so yes, he can be held responsible for not getting it done.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:01 AM
 
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So 90 Senators - all of the Republicans (obviously!) - refused to allow Obama to do what he promised to do.

And the whole thing is Bush's fault.


Uhh Huhh...
Which would have been 40 Republicans.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:07 AM
 
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Another thing that just boggles the mind. Romney needs to bring this up and hit them hard on it. First, they have this idea of shutting Gitmo down. A few years in, we have the complete opposite. No shut down, but turning the place in to a damn resort
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