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Old 03-01-2012, 05:12 PM
 
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Is there any reason under the sun to believe that Liberals and Liberalism have the nation's best interests in mind when indeed these very same Liberals are perfectly OK with consequence-free sex (ie. Abortions) and will fight to the death anytime entitlement reforms are even mentioned?

Why should we believe that Liberals and Democrats have anything other than their own self-interests in mind when the roster of ideals embraced by the left are not much more than a Free Love For All, No Matter The Cost, No Matter The Consequence™ political theory?

The United States of America is broke - fiscally, morally, and culturally. And Liberals celebrate this. Just take a look around this forum and elsewhere and pay particular attention to the issues they fight for.

Personal Responsibility is non-existent in the Liberal Establishment. And if it's legal, then it's moral. These two ideals form the foundation of Liberalism in America.

When can we expect Liberals to actually show love, honor, and courage for the United States of America that doesn't involve breaking our collective backs?

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Old 03-01-2012, 05:45 PM
 
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The party of Choice and Compassion.

The GOP are a bunch of sexually repressed ninnies, or so it appears. Geez. "Free love" is so out of date, why not just say that liberals want to play 23-skidoo/chicken inspector? You couldn't look much more out of touch or foolish.
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Old 03-01-2012, 06:06 PM
 
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The party of Choice and Compassion.

The GOP are a bunch of sexually repressed ninnies, or so it appears. Geez. "Free love" is so out of date, why not just say that liberals want to play 23-skidoo/chicken inspector? You couldn't look much more out of touch or foolish.
This is not about sex-lives. This is about embracing abortion and Never-Touch My Entitlements mentality and how these cornerstones of Liberalism are bringing the nation to its knees through moral, cultural, and fiscal decay.
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Old 03-01-2012, 06:08 PM
 
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This is not about sex-lives. This is about embracing abortion and Never-Touch My Entitlements mentality and how these cornerstones of Liberalism are bringing the nation to its knees through moral, cultural, and fiscal decay.

Well said.

What many liberals don't understand is that conservatism is about taking personal responsibility where as liberalism is about everybody else taking responsibility for them.
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Old 03-01-2012, 06:31 PM
 
Location: California
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What about the party of "pay for it now or pay for it later?".
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Old 03-01-2012, 07:19 PM
 
Location: NC
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Is there any reason under the sun to believe that Liberals and Liberalism have the nation's best interests in mind when indeed these very same Liberals are perfectly OK with consequence-free sex (ie. Abortions) and will fight to the death anytime entitlement reforms are even mentioned?

Why should we believe that Liberals and Democrats have anything other than their own self-interests in mind when the roster of ideals embraced by the left are not much more than a Free Love For All, No Matter The Cost, No Matter The Consequence™ political theory?

The United States of America is broke - fiscally, morally, and culturally. And Liberals celebrate this. Just take a look around this forum and elsewhere and pay particular attention to the issues they fight for.

Personal Responsibility is non-existent in the Liberal Establishment. And if it's legal, then it's moral. These two ideals form the foundation of Liberalism in America.

When can we expect Liberals to actually show love, honor, and courage for the United States of America that doesn't involve breaking our collective backs?
Please do mention entitlements, but please don't start on moral stuff. Broken entitlements affect all, consequence-free sex affects none, and I don't care if someone wants to have consequence-free sex, whatever that means.

When GOP starts talking fiscal issues, I start nodding my head, and then suddenly is it God, Bible, abortion, contraception, condoms and whatnot, which starts to annoy me. The Constitution gives the government the authority to reign in fiscal stuff and I am all for winding down the welfare state, but why must it be automatically mixed in with a dash of Bible-thumping? That's the part I hate.

Please don't bring up social conservative wackiness. That is what gets us GOP labelled as right-wing nutjobs and hypocrites, not for saying that we should live within our means.

Crude reminders for you to emphasize that Republicans have no right to talk about social conservatism:
  • Frontrunner and social conservative figure-head Santorum's wife had a late-term abortion.
  • Moonbat Newt screwed, married and divorced pretty much every woman he ever met.
  • "Pro-life" neocons bomb the hell out of dozens of brown people everyday, in the name of spreading "democracy".
  • "Family values" Republican politicians regularly get caught with their pants down.

Abolish the welfare state and handouts, but please do legalize marijuana, gay marriage, polygamy, orgies or whatever it is that gets the "family values" people's goat. As long as it's between consenting adults, regulating sex in any shape or form is not the government's business.

See, I am the real small government guy - get the government out of my wallet and out of my bedroom.
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Old 03-01-2012, 07:33 PM
 
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This thread is about politics, not religion. The OP is trash talking liberals for supporting consequence free sex and celebrating immorality.

Before we go condemning all liberals with a such broad brush, let's see how honest and committed conservatives are about THEIR sex lives.

I'm guessing not very.
Abortion is about killing children, not a sex life.
Doesn't take much to buy a 99cent box of condoms from the 99cent store.

Conservatives don't get liberals wanting to kill the innocent children and then how they turn around and try and protect convicted killers on death row. That seems sinister to most.

Democrats made big votes out of welfare/entitlements/abortions and add government elite union employees.
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Old 03-01-2012, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Abortion is about killing children, not a sex life.
Doesn't take much to buy a 99cent box of condoms from the 99cent store.

Conservatives don't get liberals wanting to kill the innocent children and then how they turn around and try and protect convicted killers on death row. That seems sinister to most.

Democrats made big votes out of welfare/entitlements/abortions and add government elite union employees.

So, only liberals get abortions?

Well, there must be an awful lot of liberal Christian's:


• Women who obtain abortions represent every religious affiliation. Catholic women are about as likely as all women to have an abortion.While 22% of U.S. women are Catholic, 27% of abortion patients say they are Catholics. Thirty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions identify as Protestant.

RCRC - reproductive issues & religion
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Old 03-06-2012, 02:46 PM
 
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So, only liberals get abortions?

Well, there must be an awful lot of liberal Christian's:


• Women who obtain abortions represent every religious affiliation. Catholic women are about as likely as all women to have an abortion.While 22% of U.S. women are Catholic, 27% of abortion patients say they are Catholics. Thirty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions identify as Protestant.

RCRC - reproductive issues & religion
No, liberals aren't the only people getting abortions. But Democrats and Liberals OWN the Abortion Equation and everything good, bad, and evil that it entails. Why? Because you fight for it....you support it....you will move Heaven and Earth to ensure that millions of women have the ability to kill their own spawn.

In other words, YOU are the enablers. YOU own it.
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Old 03-06-2012, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Nashville,TN
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consequence-free sex? What does that even mean?
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