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Old 03-02-2012, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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This motive doesn't make sense?
It is contradicted by objective reality. So no. It doesn't make sense.

 
Old 03-02-2012, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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It makes complete sense. And it does so in the absence of any alternative.
Anyone can make up alternative motives. Wanting to know the truth and ensuring the president is lawfully in office stands on its own independently.
 
Old 03-02-2012, 03:28 PM
 
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LOL, birthers are so gullible and stupid.

How can you determine that an original document is a forgery by only reviewing a PDF version you obtained from the internet? Joke Arpaio did not even make contact with the State of Hawaii or attempt to verify the authenticity of the actual document.

The so-called investigation is too dumb to really warrant a discussion. It is like me declaring the US Constitution to be a fake because the souvenir copy that I examined was printed using modern techniques and on the wrong type of paper.

Hawaii has confirmed that President Obama's birth certificate is authentic and accurate and state officials have even gone so far as to publically declare that there is no doubt that he was born in Honolulu. Nobody, including the Arpaio and Corsi clown show yesterday has ever been able to offer a single shred of evidence that refutes the assertions made by the only official agency that matters - the Hawaiian state government.
You don't get it. There is no original birth certificate. The PDF scan that the Obama administration put on the White House website and claimed it was proof he is a citizen was a fraudulent document.

The Arpaio investigation team did contact the Hawaii authorities to obtain documents but were denied access.

The investigation team has evidence that Hawaii officials committed crimes related to this case. They will also be indited.
 
Old 03-02-2012, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Originally Posted by HistorianDude View Post
It is contradicted by objective reality. So no. It doesn't make sense.
And you have just changed your statement. First it makes "complete" sense then it doesn't? Whatever.
 
Old 03-02-2012, 03:31 PM
 
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It is contradicted by objective reality. So no. It doesn't make sense.
The reality you prefer to be. What if you're wrong?
 
Old 03-02-2012, 03:33 PM
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You don't get it. There is no original birth certificate. The PDF scan that the Obama administration put on the White House website and claimed it was proof he is a citizen was a fraudulent document.

The Arpaio investigation team did contact the Hawaii authorities to obtain documents but were denied access.

The investigation team has evidence that Hawaii officials committed crimes related to this case. They will also be indited.
Now you are just making stuff up, par for the course for a birther.

Hawaiian officials have confirmed that the original birth certificate exists and the Obama administration made a physical copy available for a hands on inspection by several journalists in April 2011.

Arpaio admitted that nobody ever contacted the state of Hawaii during his "investigation".

Your lies are not even creative or new.
 
Old 03-02-2012, 03:33 PM
 
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They will also be indited.
Who would indict them? I'm really puzzled as to how this is going to be followed up. It seems to be a dead end unless the state AG gets the ball rolling or congress starts an investigation.
 
Old 03-02-2012, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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I just love how people perceive Obama as being the anti-Christ hellbent on destroying this "great" nation.
You don't believe this is a great nation?
 
Old 03-02-2012, 03:39 PM
 
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Wrong. the copy (PDF) of the SCANNED from the ORIGINAL Certified Copy, to this day has not been proven to be fraudulent by any respectable expert

you have the testimony of NON-experts saying it's a "forgerY' based on their ignorance of Graphic software.

And these experts FAILED to realize that not a SINGLE Adobe product was used to create the PDF. It was entirely created by built-in software found on a MAC computer, as it received the information from a scanner.

I've worked in the graphics field since before Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator was even a blink in someone's eye, and knew from experience that these fraud experts were blowing nothing but steam from bovine excrement.




No, they did not. They created a fake COLb based on their own inexperience and ignorant understanding of the software they used.

THey did NOT recreate anything, but show the world their ignorance.

They did not scan a document in the SAME software and SCANNER that the White House used.




AFFIDAVITS mean nothing. They do not attest to that the information is correct, only that the person making the claims is the person they claim to be.

And the court has already ruled on thes "experts" affidavits. In GA. And the Judge found their claims to be without merit and done by those who WERE not experts.



Wrong. this proves that the investigation was done by morons.

Seeing that the Selective SErvice card was gotten through an FOIA request, they are accuing another BIRTHER for fraud.

And the Postmark thing was nothing but ignorance on the part of Zullo
President Obama's Selective Service Registration - Birther Debunkers Wiki






no the investigation is a rehash of 4 year old conspiracy theories, with nothing new. It was nearly a word-for-word repeat of Zebests' articel she wrote for WND over 8 months ago, with a little added zeal to it. And Zebest is a known PUMA who spoke ill of Obama before he was elected President.


This was nothing but a sham investigation. Basically the entire thing was bought and paid for by World Nut daily, as a means to get an "official" stamp so that Corsi can push more of his FAILED book for sale.
Nope, you are wrong. This investigation was official and carried out under law enforcement (Sheriff Arpio).
 
Old 03-02-2012, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Anyone can make up alternative motives. Wanting to know the truth and ensuring the president is lawfully in office stands on its own independently.
There are no other motives that make sense for this particular political pathology. Certainly "a quest for truth cannot" be considered long enough to even say it out loud as Birthism is founded on a set of willful lies that never die. No matter how conclusively proven false they simply never die.

Birthism is so fundamentally dishonest, and so foundationally irrational that it can only be explained by a motive of equal disreputability. There is no other possible motive than unrefined racism.

Not all Birthers are racist, but that's because so many of them don't even pretend to understand the facts. They simply follow the leader... right down the racist rabbit hole.
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