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Old 03-06-2012, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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During a recent interview with Glenn Beck, Rick and Karen Santorum suggested that the Obama administration's health care reform law would harm people with disabilities, like their three-year-old daughter, Bella, who suffers from a rare and usually fatal genetic disorder. ..Yet, even as the Santorums bash Obamacare, their own family story—which includes staggering medical bills that would bankrupt many American families—makes the case for the health care policies that they vigorously oppose.
Rick Santorum: Obamacare Poster Boy | Mother Jones

Funny this guy goes around saying how much values life, but seem he doesn't see to value the Bella's whose parents can't afford 100,000/yr in medical bills. Half of bankruptcies are related to medical bills and 75% of those people started off with has insurance before benefits ran out,etc. The Gourly's are not exception to the rule, the vast majority whose face these problems are working people not "leeching" off the system. Why? So an insurance industry, that doesn't even innovate, doesn't cure anything, that is merely the middle man, can make billions in profit.

Medical bills trigger half of all bankruptcies - Business - Personal finance - msnbc.com

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Old 03-06-2012, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Rick Santorum: Obamacare Poster Boy | Mother Jones

Funny this guy goes around saying how much values life, but seem he doesn't see to value the Bella's whose parents can't afford 100,000/yr in medical bills. Half of bankruptcies are related to medical bills and 75% of those people started off with has insurance before benefits ran out,etc. The Gourly's are not exception to the rule, the vast majority whose face these problems are working people not "leeching" off the system. Why? So an insurance industry, that doesn't even innovate, doesn't cure anything, that is merely the middle man, can make billions in profit.

Medical bills trigger half of all bankruptcies - Business - Personal finance - msnbc.com
The 100,000 in medical bills are actually caused by the overregulation by Your Lord and Savior Government.
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Old 03-06-2012, 11:02 PM
 
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The 100,000 in medical bills are actually caused by the overregulation by Your Lord and Savior Government.
You misspelled my name, and I got nothing to do with this!!
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Old 03-06-2012, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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The 100,000 in medical bills are actually caused by the overregulation by Your Lord and Savior Government.
Really? Not by an industry where the top five insurers made a $12.2 billion profit in 2010 and are up 250% in the last decade.

Health Insurers Post Record Profits - ABC News

Health Insurer Profits Jumped 250% in Last Decade - DailyFinance
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Old 03-07-2012, 03:08 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The 100,000 in medical bills are actually caused by the overregulation by Your Lord and Savior Government.
Nice sounding phrase, but do you have any evidence to support it?
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Old 03-07-2012, 04:22 AM
 
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Rick Santorum: Obamacare Poster Boy | Mother Jones

Funny this guy goes around saying how much values life, but seem he doesn't see to value the Bella's whose parents can't afford 100,000/yr in medical bills. Half of bankruptcies are related to medical bills and 75% of those people started off with has insurance before benefits ran out,etc. The Gourly's are not exception to the rule, the vast majority whose face these problems are working people not "leeching" off the system. Why? So an insurance industry, that doesn't even innovate, doesn't cure anything, that is merely the middle man, can make billions in profit.

Medical bills trigger half of all bankruptcies - Business - Personal finance - msnbc.com
For some Catholics, being held hostage by torment is a religious experience. I don't happen to agree with that view. I happen to believe self defense is a right.
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Old 03-07-2012, 04:59 AM
 
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Really? Not by an industry where the top five insurers made a $12.2 billion profit in 2010 and are up 250% in the last decade.

Health Insurers Post Record Profits - ABC News

Health Insurer Profits Jumped 250% in Last Decade - DailyFinance
and so what does obamacare do, actually?

makes everybody buy health insurance.

yikes.
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Old 03-07-2012, 05:59 AM
 
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Rick Santorum: Obamacare Poster Boy | Mother Jones

Funny this guy goes around saying how much values life, but seem he doesn't see to value the Bella's whose parents can't afford 100,000/yr in medical bills. Half of bankruptcies are related to medical bills and 75% of those people started off with has insurance before benefits ran out,etc. The Gourly's are not exception to the rule, the vast majority whose face these problems are working people not "leeching" off the system. Why? So an insurance industry, that doesn't even innovate, doesn't cure anything, that is merely the middle man, can make billions in profit.

Medical bills trigger half of all bankruptcies - Business - Personal finance - msnbc.com

"Either you support Obamacare or you leave people to die in the streets" is a false dichotomy liberals have been using for years now. You ignore even the possibility of reforms other than your chosen reform so you make the choice either Obamacare or nothing. That's not reality.

Republicans want to repeal and replace. But you all dishonestly ignore the "and replace" part and use appeals to fear to claim that Republicans just want only rich people to have healthcare and nothing for everyone else.

If your Obamacare actually was worth a hill of beans you wouldn't need to use scare tactics and Hobbesian choices to defend it. You don't need to scare people into supporting a good plan. So why don't you try arguing it on its merits for once?
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