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I lived for most of my life in FL where they require you to have your ID to vote .To me ,this agrument is just plain silly and stupid .You have to show your ID and have one for nearly every walk of life .As for the "immigrants" have some kind of "unfairness" namely hispanics GO HOME GO HOME !!!! To my understanding that's the reason they instituted the ID law in the first place (according to a poll worker).
I lived for most of my life in FL where they require you to have your ID to vote .To me ,this agrument is just plain silly and stupid .You have to show your ID and have one for nearly every walk of life .As for the "immigrants" have some kind of "unfairness" namely hispanics GO HOME GO HOME !!!! To my understanding that's the reason they instituted the ID law in the first place (according to a poll worker).
Do you live in a large metro area, or not?
People living in cities don't need a photo ID for many things. Or they have a photo ID, but it doesn't list their address. Thats where these laws get sticky. If everyone is provided a free voter ID card, then I'd have no problem, its the cost, and thats a problem for many people. Even if its 10 dollars, thats a lot of money to some people.
Because getting a free ID is too much to ask from someone to help minimize the opportunity for fraud...
Do you even know that studies have shown that there is virtually no fraud? So, the GOP will disenfranchise millions of voters under the cover of voter non-existent fraud.
Do you even know that studies have shown that there is virtually no fraud? So, the GOP will disenfranchise millions of voters under the cover of voter non-existent fraud.
Of course there's no fraud. They don't verify anything.
Look at that guy that registered his dog to vote.
He only got caught because he spoke up.
If you're NOT checking you'll never find anything wrong.
Do you even know that studies have shown that there is virtually no fraud? So, the GOP will disenfranchise millions of voters under the cover of voter non-existent fraud.
I asked for these examples earlier, but all I got was a city council fraud case in south carolina. Not exactly a Presidential or congressional race, which is the big fear, right?
And if you want to register to vote today, without the addition of a Voter ID card, that requirement does not change. It's been a requirement and will continue to be one. If you think this is an unfair charge, I suggest you take up this separate issue with your duly elected representatives.
It's never been a problem for me before. Nobody has ever stopped me from registering to vote for not showing photo ID.
Do you even know that studies have shown that there is virtually no fraud? So, the GOP will disenfranchise millions of voters under the cover of voter non-existent fraud.
If there is no verification, then there is no way to tell the amount of fraud or lack thereof. We do know that there are attempts to influence elections in other ways, so why would you think nobody would think to vote illegally if they know it isn't being checked? Why would we not take an obvious step when we know that there are millions in this country that do not belong and that have an interest in political outcomes?
Can you show me the disenfranchised millions you speak of?
The issue I see is, What are these voter ID laws actually doing as far as ensuring the intergrety of the voting system?
As I said, Hawai'i imposed a voter ID but it it is to ensure the intergety of the Hawai'i voting system. That ensures that voters are leaglly 18 or over. It ensures that the voter is a US citizen eligable to vote. AND, the main purpose is to ensure that the person voting has the legal right to vote in that Hawai'i election district. The last item is something US giovernement identifications do not do and that is why on Hawai'i, your passport or militray ID or anything like that is not enought and you must have pre-verified your residency or prove it at time of voting.
I think many voter ID laws really will not prevent fraud on the scale they could because the focus is on "illegals" voting or keeping certain classes from voting. Like on Hawaii'i, the greatest number of illegal fraudulent voters were military or wealthy ping-pongers. That is why the so called right-wing, or conservatives, or reprublicans, or whatever you want to call them are the vocal group against hHwai'i's voter ID law because it makes no illusion as to who the fraud voters are and it makes sure the core reason needed for ID is being addressed by the ID requirment.
It also has no political message attached and that is hard for many to understand. I mean how can you sday a US Passport isn;t good enough to establish your rightt o vote? The answer is it proves only your a us citizen of age and not that you legal reside within the election district your voting. That is the part of Hawai'i's law that reduces the fraud that really occurs in elctrions all over the US. Think about it, you register to vote in Missisipi, go to Alabama and resigeter, how does those two states know your regiostered soemwhgere else? Or you live and reside in Texas but registered to vote in Hawai'i because you stay there there in Sept - November. So yuo walk into a Hawaii polling place after registering and show your passport for ID, is that supposed to be enough? Whats to stop you from doing a mail in ballot in an election in TX at the same time? truth si, that is such a common voter fraud and occurs probably 1,00,00 times to everytime some ilegal alien voted. yet the emphasis is on the us citizenship not the legality to be voting where they are voting. Fortunetely, on Hawai'i, thats what is being addresses so they are doing everything to catch these fraudulent voters.
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As for the "immigrants" have some kind of "unfairness" namely hispanics GO HOME GO HOME !!!! To my understanding that's the reason they instituted the ID law in the first place (according to a poll worker).
