How does a photo ID requirement suppress voters? (Alabama, examples, worker)
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Most polling places are convenient enough for able-bodied people to walk to. If you need a ride to the polls, there are numbers to call that are published in the newspaper.
Oh, I get it. So it't the phone that has to be free or it's a poll tax, right? If I'm not able-bodied, I might not be able to pay for the phone and it equates to a poll tax if I need to get one to call for a ride.
So you're in favor of punishing the innocent, such as this 86-year old man and thousands like him, for the (hypothetical) crimes of very few. Hmmm.
Where exactly do you have to travel over 100 miles to go vote?? And if he's irrisponsible enough not to bring his LICENSE when he DRIVES to go vote, then yes, he should be held accountable for his OWN actions! This is something I teach my boys all the time, if you forget something that you need, it's no one's fault but your own.
Most polling places are convenient enough for able-bodied people to walk to. If you need a ride to the polls, there are numbers to call that are published in the newspaper.
Oh. . . My. . . . G*d! You have no understanding of poverty, I can see that. Did it ever occur to you that some people get their internet access via the library?
Wow, just wow!
It sure does.
That's why I brought up the common-sense solution of retooling how $15 might be spent in a week.
So then let me repeat your "Wow, just wow!" back to you.
Because God forbid anyone should attempt elementary math in order to come up with $15 measly dollars.
Actually, here's what ya do: You and all the other whiners pony up the incredible amount of $15 for each illegal you wish to aid,
how's that? Or, if you like, for each "poverty-stricken" person who cannot go without cigarettes, alcohol, or a trip to Whole Foods on the gov't dime.
That way:
they get their BC or other ID,
the rest of us don't pay for them,
you can pat yourself on the back self-importantly,
everyone's happy.
It sure does.
That's why I brought up the common-sense solution of retooling how $15 might be spent in a week.
So then let me repeat your "Wow, just wow!" back to you.
Because God forbid anyone should attempt elementary math in order to come up with $15 measly dollars.
Actually, here's what ya do: You and all the other whiners pony up the incredible amount of $15 for each illegal you wish to aid,
how's that? Or, if you like, for each "poverty-stricken" person who cannot go without cigarettes, alcohol, or a trip to Whole Foods on the gov't dime.
That way:
they get their BC or other ID,
the rest of us don't pay for them,
you can pat yourself on the back self-importantly,
everyone's happy.
I think you're the self-important one who's patting himself on the back.
Where do you get the idea I support any illegal immigrants. Where did I say that? Please post.
Whole Paycheck, er Foods? You go look at the demographics of a WF shopper, and tell me they're on welfare.
The most expensive is $33.50. And really, if you can't afford an ID which you need for just about everything unless you're under 18 years of age, then you've got bigger problems to worry about than just voting!
Actually I did some further research on this and OR DMV does charge $45 bucks for their ID cards (Ca & NV it's only $12). But it seems to me, that if the price of the ID card is the problem, then the people in those states should talk to their legislature about changing the prices. The price shouldn't be what stops the voter ID laws. These laws are just simply smart to avoid any voter fraud and it doesn't discriminate against anyone! Everyone, despite age/color/religion/sex must show an ID to VOTE. How does that descriminate against any group of people?
Most of the states have fee waivers or special fees for those of low income or the homeless... so really there are VERY few people who could even claim not to be able to afford to get the drivers license. Besides Voting, there are so many other reasons you have to have an ID for,(cashing a check, getting a bank account, working, driving) why should needing one to vote suddenly make a difference?
The most expensive is $33.50. And really, if you can't afford an ID which you need for just about everything unless you're under 18 years of age, then you've got bigger problems to worry about than just voting!
Actually I did some further research on this and OR DMV does charge $45 bucks for their ID cards (Ca & NV it's only $12). But it seems to me, that if the price of the ID card is the problem, then the people in those states should talk to their legislature about changing the prices. The price shouldn't be what stops the voter ID laws. These laws are just simply smart to avoid any voter fraud and it doesn't discriminate against anyone! Everyone, despite age/color/religion/sex must show an ID to VOTE. How does that descriminate against any group of people?
Most of the states have fee waivers or special fees for those of low income or the homeless... so really there are VERY few people who could even claim not to be able to afford to get the drivers license. Besides Voting, there are so many other reasons you have to have an ID for,(cashing a check, getting a bank account, working, driving) why should needing one to vote suddenly make a difference?
I rounded up. Then there is the drivers license test, which you have to pay for, etc.
They are listing just the cost of the license, not the cost of everything to get to the point where you can pay for the license.
Most states, I know Kentucky did, charge more for a state issued ID card then they do a license, because you don't take the written and driving tests like you do and they have to offset that cost.
To vote under the new law, an individual will need a driver's license, a state-issued ID card, a military ID or a passport. New voter registration cards with picture IDs are also planned but are not yet available.
"What I said was, 'If we have to take you ourselves, we are going to make sure that you have the picture ID you need to vote,' " the Republican governor said. "Our goal is to make sure we have more people voting rather than less."
Individuals who want a ride can call 1-855-StateID through Sept. 22, said Kevin Shwedo, the director of the Motor Vehicles Department.Over the phone, state officials will go over the documents an individuals needs to get an ID card, which are free to those 17 and older. Those documents are a birth certificate, a Social Security card and a document, such as a utility bill, with the individual's name and address for proof of residency.
For those that lack one of those documents, Shwedo said the DMV officials will discuss how they can get them. Once they have all the documents necessary, the DMV will give them a two-hour window for when they can expect to get picked up on Sept. 28.
(b) If an elector does not produce a valid and current photograph identification because the elector suffers from a reasonable impediment that prevents the elector from obtaining photograph identification, he may complete an affidavit under the penalty of perjury at the polling place and affirm that the elector: (i) is the same individual who personally appeared at the polling place; (ii) cast the provisional ballot on election day; and (iii) the elector suffers from a reasonable impediment that prevents him from obtaining photograph identification. The elector also shall list the impediment, unless otherwise prohibited by state or federal law. Upon completion of the affidavit, the elector may cast a provisional ballot. The affidavit must be submitted with the provisional ballot envelope and be filed with the county board of registration and elections before certification of the election by the county board of canvassers.
No, the most expensive is 40 dollars, then there is the drivers license test, which you have to pay for, etc.
They are listing just the cost of the license, not the cost of everything to get to the point where you can pay for the license.
Most states, I know Kentucky did, charge more for a state issued ID card then they do a license, because you don't take the written and driving tests like you do and they have to offset that cost.
It's not a license. It's a STATE ID. They are separate items.
Kentucky..$12 and your SS card gets you a state ID.
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