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Old 03-14-2012, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Remember, PA went RED in 2010...legislature and Governor.....a very convenient and wonderful time for that to happen BTW. Just in time for the 2012 election.

House passed it...on to the Governor. I take it the Senate has already passed the bill.

Pa. House passes voter ID bill (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/142656906.html - broken link)

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The bill would mandate that voters show a photo ID such as a driver's license; a student, county, or municipal card; or IDs from a personal-care home.
You need an ID for everything else...why not to vote?

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If voters show up without a photo ID, they would be allowed to cast a provisional ballot, and then would have six days to present election officials with an acceptable ID.
Sounds reasonable...right?

And if you can prove you can't afford one, the cost will be picked up by the state.
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Oh great. Now all of the non-white minorities and old people will be barred from voting and Republicans will take over Pennyslvania and turn into a theocracy. All of these voter ID laws benefit Republicans. If you really think this is a good thing you need to get your head checked.

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Old 03-14-2012, 03:48 PM
 
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Oh great. Now all of the non-white minorities and old people will be barred from voting and Republicans will take over Pennyslvania and turn into a theocracy. All of these voter ID laws benefit Republicans. If you really think this is a good thing you need to get your head checked.
I live in PA, and I was never barred from voting nor disenfranchised. I always use my DL, and not my simple 8 1/2 x 11 cutout of a voter "ID card" with no picture on it
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I live in PA,
So why does your location say you live in England?
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:56 PM
 
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Oh great. Now all of the non-white minorities and old people will be barred from voting and Republicans will take over Pennyslvania and turn into a theocracy. All of these voter ID laws benefit Republicans. If you really think this is a good thing you need to get your head checked.
Why? Because those willing to try voter fraud are more likely to be democrat?
Or are you saying that the "victims" liberals need to succeed are just too dumb to get an ID?

Its not hard to get a valid ID and prove who you are. When you have groups like ACORN, its pretty obvious why we need these laws in place.
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:59 PM
 
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It doesn't matter. The DOJ will bar it from going into effect until long after the election.

Republians and conservatives, riddle me this. Potential for fraud, as you are reasoning has existed for years (heck, decades). Why are you so concerned about this issue now as opposed to, say, when Bush was in office?
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It doesn't matter. The DOJ will bar it from going into effect until long after the election.
No, they won't. Voter ID laws have been ruled constitutional by the US Supreme Court. Crawford v. Marion County Election Board.

The DOJ used the preclearance requirements of the Voting Rights Act, which PA is not subject to, to stop the TX law from going into effect.

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Old 03-14-2012, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/usatoday/article/38797885?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|s (broken link)

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Pennsylvania is expected to become home to one of the nation's toughest voter identification measures
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Republican-controlled legislatures in Pennsylvania and around the country have actively pursued such photo ID laws over the past year
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Democrats contend that getting a photo ID from the state will not be free or easy, noting that applying for supporting paperwork such as birth certificates and passports costs money and getting them takes months. Also, the six-day window after the election allowed by the measure for someone to supply photo ID to elections officials is really less because state offices, such as state driver's license centers and county elections bureaus, are typically closed on weekends.
There goes the 15th amendment.
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:04 PM
 
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If someone is incapable of attaining an ID then they are most likely incapable of voting.
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Oh great. Now all of the non-white minorities and old people will be barred from voting and Republicans will take over Pennyslvania and turn into a theocracy. All of these voter ID laws benefit Republicans. If you really think this is a good thing you need to get your head checked.
A bit over the top, wouldn't you say? You mean people of color and old people don't have IDs?

You know, YOU and obama are on the wrong side of this issue. The people overwhelmingly approve of voter id laws.
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