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So why are the employee there there if the employer is not making any money? Have you heard of customer service and treating the customer well so they will come back? That is the employee doing that. How do you figure the business owner is going to make money without his employees?
Employees support the business. The enable businesses to run. They are an invaluable asset to the business. Through customer service, sales, etc, they provide value to the business owner. But the one thing they certainly don't do is provide a way for business owners to make money. Business owners and management provide the way.... employees support the way.
Again, when does a customer service employee come up with a way to make money?
You don't get it...According to Republicans all the rich people are rich because they sprinkle themselves with magical rich person fairy dust every morning. Us worker idiots have nothing to do with any of it. And if they decide one day they don't want to give us the gift of life anymore because Obama implements some kind of socialist, communist, nazi policy, then we are all going to suffer because they are going to just up and take their magical rich person fairy dust and go somewhere else.
In fact, according to Republicans, we are the biggest thorn in the magical rich peoples lives. If it wasn't for us 'recipients', they wouldn't have to worrry about those free-market killing things like insurance, living wage, safety, etc. So instead of an 800k house they could live in a 2 million dollar home.
So just get down on your knees, thank baby jesus that a rich person is there to give you the gift of a free-market life because, god knows, if a millionaire has to pay an extra 10k in taxes, its all going to go away and you'll have NOTHING!
I don't think you're really answering his question. matt1984 is suggesting that employees provide a way for business owners to make money.
For example, an employee (such as a customer service employee that he suggested) propagates business plans up to business owners.
But this is completely false. The business plan starts at the top and gets propagated down.
I don't think you're really answering his question. matt1984 is suggesting that employees provide a way for business owners to make money.
For example, an employee (such as a customer service employee that he suggested) propagates business plans up to business owners.
But this is completely false. The business plan starts at the top and gets propagated down.
Yeah your correct. The business owner comes up with the genius plan and starts and runs the business. The fact that he needs an employee to take the customers money, support the computer system, deal with the patients, etc. has nothing to do with making money for the business. The brilliant business owner, after creating the brilliant plan for the business, doesn't actually need anybody to help him run the business so he can make money
This is why people like you scare me. You are of that talk-radio/Fox News Republican genre that has taken over the party the last 20years. So insanely ignorant and hell bent towards this bizarre belief that the vast majority of Americans are just these do-nothing morons who owe everything to a few super rich...It is truely bizarre and very telling of how very ignorant you people are!
Yeah your correct. The business owner comes up with the genius plan and starts and runs the business. The fact that he needs an employee to take the customers money, support the computer system, deal with the patients, etc. has nothing to do with making money for the business. The brilliant business owner, after creating the brilliant plan for the business, doesn't actually need anybody to help him run the business so he can make money
This is why people like you scare me. You are of that talk-radio/Fox News Republican genre that has taken over the party the last 20years. So insanely ignorant and hell bent towards this bizarre belief that the vast majority of Americans are just these do-nothing morons who owe everything to a few super rich...It is truely bizarre and very telling of how very ignorant you people are!
That's complete nonsense. How the heck would a business owner make money without the help of employees? You have some serious screws loose if you truly believe that. As I stated in my previous post, employees are an invaluable asset of any business.
You're the bizarre one. Did you even read what you wrote in your first paragraph? You're actually saying that employees provide no value. That's ridiculous. You haven't a clue about business.
I spend most of my income buying necessities. These necessities are sold at a profit for the owners of the businesses. Therefore I am having a portion of the money I spend transferred from me, a 99%er, to the owning 1%ers. That makes me a provider and them a recipient. Then there is the fact that I pay much of my limited income as taxes whilst multimillionaires pay at a much lower rate on their effectively unlimited income. Thus I am a provider to the government and they are recipients.
I am certain the OP was trying to chastise the poor as “recipients†while “proper†people like him were “providersâ€. Indeed, he might be a “provider†but the biggest recipients are big business.
What an odd way of seeing things!
I, the business owner, seeing that you are unable to acquire the necessities of life without assistance spend my capital, labor, and talents to make them available to you. You then complain about my 'profit' and say that you are transferring a portion of your money to me as if my capital, labor, and talents deserve no compensation!!
Using your rationale, it should be fine for an employer to compensate his employees with room and board only- otherwise they become part of the '1%' by being compensated for their capital ($cost of working), labor, and talents.................
So compensation is different because??
Where is the dividing line today?
Bull, if you don't pay your taxes they can, AND WILL, tale everything. Ask Willy or Wesley.
Taxes are legal, and I don't complain about paying them. I only wish that the system was set up so that everyone had a federal tax payment.
That being said, the government has no authority to take from me to feed another families children.
If I know of a family that is having financial troubles, I have the option to help....without the government filtering it through the sticky fingers of a bureaucracy.
Hmmm...I had a job where two dozen employees were paid within 25 cents of minimum wage. Total payroll under $400K (my estimate, can't be significantly higher given wages noted above).
Our employer spent 1/4 of the year (2-4 weeks at a time) globetrotting and netted $3M per year.
So the value to the market of two dozen people was chump change, whiule our employer's value to the market was $3M?
Your employer built the business, risked his capital and paid what the positions were worth.
Military contranctors are in the recipient group...and they're doing great!
And again, the very same politicians who set the wheels in motion for this kind of cronyism are the same ones who keep getting elected over and over and over again.
This post has yet to make sense since you never clearly defined what provider class and recipient class are you just stated you were in the provider class.
If you have a federal tax liability after doing your taxes, you are a provider.
If you take more from the government than you pay into it, you are a recipient.
Crystal clear.
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