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I'm not sure the bank would see it that way - as a mistake - all they see is that you've attempted to write a large number of large checks without having the funds for it.
Many judges will convict to teach a lesson. Spend a day sitting in criminal court.
No. They committed a felony. They cannot vote, they cannot own a fire arm, they cannot do a lot of things. That is one of the deterents to keep people from committing a felony. That's part of the punishment. If they want to vote, don't get slapped with a felony.
If you want to give that privelege back to them, then let's let them buy a gun if they want. Heck, let's just drop the sentence to nothing.
I agree 100%. If you did the crime do the time...and expect little or nothing when/if you ever get paroled! If we don't stand behind the punishment and the fear of having it that deters many would be criminals, why even have a justice system?
The convicted felon must petition for their rights to be restored.
There are some who will not have their rights restored such as those who are on lifetime probabtion
Same if you are later found innocent of the charges, you have to ask for a pardon (at least in Texas) to expunge it off the records. Kind of like being good enough to collect money but incompetent to return money. This is very wrong.
I agree 100%. If you did the crime do the time...and expect little or nothing when/if you ever get paroled! If we don't stand behind the punishment and the fear of having it that deters many would be criminals, why even have a justice system?
Because the "punishments" have gotten so excessive and so stupid that the punishment in and of itself metes consequences that aren't fair by anyones standard of justice, save for maybe the "cop type".
The old "don't do the crime if you can't do the time" has merit in a lot of situations, however, the "time" involved has essentially become a life sentence for a lot of offenders (mainly non-violent offenders)
We've ratcheted up the "conciquences" so high and set the bar for what constitutes a "felony" so low that we presently incarcerate more people per capita than any other nation on earth!
We are doing something dreadfully wrong... We took the wrong path after we threw out the baby with the bathwater by doing away with the "rehabilitation" component of incarceration and went to a straight "punishment" model.
We ruin people, release them, and then scratch our heads in wonder when they offend again.
It's just so stupid and the only people who get behind this sort of thing are those one-level thinkers who are profoundly affected by catch-phrases like "do the crime do the time".
Don't get me wrong... There are evil people out there- lock them up forever, kill them, I couldn't care less.
There are anti-social types who will never rehabilitate- for them, prison is the life they've chosen, and there isn't much we can do for them. Still, anyone who has actually worked in the system in a non "uniform wearing" capacity understands that there are huge numbers of people who, either as a result of youth or indiscretion, made singular, stupid victimless decisions and we now impose conciquences on them no different than a child molester, rapist, bank robber or murderer.
Once a person has done their time and/or probation or parole and is staying out of trouble and contributing to society by working and paying their taxes they should be able to vote. That is my opinion of course. What do you think?
I agree. Once you've successfully completed your sentence including the payment of fines, the successful completion of parole, any rehabilitation, etc. the right to vote should be restored.
Yes, they should. Read "Makes me wanna holler" in which Nate McCall describes the excessive difficulty of the stigma surrounding his ex felon status. The man also served his time and paid his dues. If a man or woman clears up his or her obligations then there's no reason to deny them such privileges.
I agree. Once you've successfully completed your sentence including the payment of fines, the successful completion of parole, any rehabilitation, etc. the right to vote should be restored.
Even for those who are on lifetime probation (different from parole)?
Even those who were convicted of particularily heinous crimes - murder, rape etc?
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