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View Poll Results: Should able people who are able to work but refuse to receive any support from the government?
Yes 5 4.50%
No 100 90.09%
Undecided 6 5.41%
Voters: 111. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-28-2012, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca.
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What a silly question. Of course not. But just because someone has'nt found work as quickly as we think they should have doesnt mean they are refusing. Employers are aware that they are at an advantage now and are getting persnickety about giving even skilled able bodies with degrees and
years of experience, a chance at entry level positions.
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Old 03-28-2012, 09:21 AM
 
Location: USA
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yes i guess until there are more
than enough jobs for every
able-bodied person in the usa.
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Old 03-28-2012, 09:21 AM
 
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First you would have to set up a panel of bureaucrats to decide what is, or os not work. If I were a struggling, new artist or writer, is that considered "work"?
Work is an endeavor that earns you an income. If you aren't making money on it, it's nothing more than a hobby.
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Old 03-28-2012, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Oh yes, cause moving 2000 miles away when you have $50 to your name is so easy...:smack :



First off, do NOT "call me out" for that crap; it will make you look like an ass; since it's NOT true.

And I don't drink lattes, that is NASTY.

I have a job thanks, not to mention a full time student finishing my degree, about to start my Masters.

Secondly, I'm not "on the dole", and our family doesn't recieve ANY money from the Gov (save for my husbands military disability which is a bit over $200 a month, BTW).

So back off, since you are obviously WRONG.

Apparently you have never heard of playing Devil's Advocate.
One more time, and I will say it slowly. EASY is not the point. EASY is not referenced here. It is NOT easy.
I left and moved 5 states on exactly $50. in my 20's, so yes, it CAN be done. I did it!
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Old 03-28-2012, 02:31 PM
 
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One more time, and I will say it slowly. EASY is not the point. EASY is not referenced here. It is NOT easy.
I left and moved 5 states on exactly $50. in my 20's, so yes, it CAN be done. I did it!
Congratulations. Not everyone can. End of story.
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Old 03-28-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Is this a joke? Absolutely not.
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Old 03-28-2012, 03:06 PM
 
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Why haven't they saved up for a rainy day when they were working, and why aren't they spending a few hours/day in a library studying new skills?

If someone has a minimum wage job and student loan payments, how much do you expect them to save up for a rainy day?

And when that rainy day comes, how long do you expect their nest egg to last?

And many skills are not marketable without the formal education that most employers want. Why would an employer hire a self-taught accountant when they can get someone with an accounting degree and a 3.8 GPA?
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Old 03-28-2012, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Congratulations. Not everyone can. End of story.

Where the will is strong...I refuse to say I can't do anything I set my mind to.
Trust and faith helps!
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Old 03-28-2012, 11:54 PM
 
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Should able-bodied, able-minded people who do not have any other obligations and nonetheless refuse to work be entitled to a minimal standard of living, by government support if necessary?
No. So why are we paying the Republican senators and representatives who just vote "no" as a block, and don't really do any constructive work?
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Old 03-29-2012, 12:00 AM
 
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No they should not continue to get money.
As an example though, let me give you a taste of what goes on in California where I live.

Resident mother, father's never around or paying.
#1 EBT
#2 $600 per three children in house
#3 Education money to go to school.
#4 Free medical
#5 Free cell
#6 Free baby sitting
#7 Maybe a section 8 voucher for housing.

So why would the person above go work for lets say $10 an hour when they will lose money?
So many are uninspired to ever work, probably file false tax returns for thousands and until you kick them off the system they aren't leaving on their own.

The system has to become far more unattractive.
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