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We don't know who screamed for help. Unless there is a video or audio recording of Travon Martin, we may never know because he obviously cannot submit a voice sample for testing against the 911 tape. They can only say they don't think it is Zimmerman but they cannot prove it was Trayvon without a sample. If anybody has video or audio of Trayvon, they need to turn it over to the Special Prosecutor now.
This means absolutely nothing. First, who cares who is screaming on the tapes? Does it change the outcome? No.
Second, if/when this goes to trial, Zimmerman is going to have his experts, with just as much credibility as these guys, saying IT WAS Zimmerman screaming for help.
All this does is continue to cloud, an already muddy pool of water. Doesn't PROVE anything.
It is already on record that he was given medical attention before he was brought into the station where the video was made. Get your facts straight.
He was given some first aid at the scene. Medical attention requires a doctor.
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Originally Posted by simetime
Why? Because he gave the camera the finger? What a bunch of bull!
There are people in the military, police officers as well as lawyers, judges ect that at one time took a picture that made them look differently in the light of who they actaully are.
If I took a picture of me doing the monkey dance with a cow is that a reason to be shoot in cold blood?
Apparently some of these posters think so!
Some of these posters are either extremely naive or just playing dumb about these pictures. "Everyone" knows that employers now look at Facebook to find out if you've ever had a picture taken of yourself at a party acting "goofy" or worse. Does one picture of you with a can of beer "prove" you are an alcohlic? Does a picture of you with a lampshade hat on (I once had a boss who had one of those and he liked to wear it to parties) mean you have a drinking problem and go to wild parties? Does a picture of you with your eyes crossed mean you were drunk at the time? Does a picture of you smoking out of a bong mean you were smoking marijuana?
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Maybe in the poster's town the librarian administers the drug/alcohol test. Maybe the dog catcher when the librarian is not available.
LOL! Maybe the swimmng pool manager does it when no one else is around, or the golf pro.
The Special Prosecutor is at work on this. Despite her being a Republican, I think she will work hard on this because alot is at stake here. And from what I have heard, she is one of the best prosecutors in the state and possibly the country. So everybody needs to chill and let the lady do the job she was appointed to do and we will see what the Grand Jury says 8 days from now.
This means absolutely nothing. First, who cares who is screaming on the tapes? Does it change the outcome? No.
Second, if/when this goes to trial, Zimmerman is going to have his experts, with just as much credibility as these guys, saying IT WAS Zimmerman screaming for help.
All this does is continue to cloud, an already muddy pool of water. Doesn't PROVE anything.
The "experts" that a jury would most likely believe would be those from the FBI Crime Lab who are now conduting test on the tapes. They will be the ones with the most credibility to a jury for either side.
NBC alters 911 call to make Zimmerman appear racist
NBC aired an altered copy of a 911 call from Zimmerman. The alteration makes it look like Zimmermann had racist motivations.
NBC's altered version makes it sound like Zimmerman said:
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Zimmerman: This guy looks like he's up to no good. He looks black.
But here is the full, unedited conversation that took place in the 911 call:
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Zimmerman: This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.
Who is the more racially motivated here? Zimmerman or NBC?
I still think that Zimmerman was a damned fool for carrying a gun on a Neighborhood Watch tour. But the more facts that come out about what actually happened, the more this looks like a deliberate attempt by various news outlets, to smear Zimmerman as a racist murderer when in fact he was nothing of the kind.
How do these NBC people sleep at night after pulling something like this?
I tend to agree with you except that the local DA fouled this case up from the get go. Lots of people are blaming the Sanford Police but it has become clear that the Detective submitted the charges to the local DA. Apparently the Detective, with years of experience, believed there was enough doubt on Zimmerman's story to press charges. But it appears the DA just did not want to fool with the thing and hoped it would just "go away".
That may very well be the case. However, we shall never know, now will we? I just get very tired of people thinking they know how to conduct a criminal investigation and they have never done so.
Not too mention, for EVERYONE, please remember this:
As a police officer, you arrest based upon probable cause (the old, pesky 4th Amendment). A district attorney needs to prove, BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, Zimmerman murdered Martin. Two TOTALLY different burdens of proof. The district attorney has the final say so, on what cases will be charged and what will not, based upon their needs; not the police, not the general public.
They are the ones with the expertise on what they believe they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt, to 12 people on a jury. When the case was originally presented to him/her/it, that standard was not there.
Look at the division going on right now. Do you truly believe, you will get 12 people in a jury box, and ALL 12 would convict Zimmerman? Really? So lets just arrest him anyway, put him through 2-3 years of hell, just for the hell of it? Just so our little ego's feel better? That is NOT how our criminal justice system was put together. It was put together to COMBAT that type of persecution.
This means absolutely nothing. First, who cares who is screaming on the tapes? Does it change the outcome? No.
Second, if/when this goes to trial, Zimmerman is going to have his experts, with just as much credibility as these guys, saying IT WAS Zimmerman screaming for help.
All this does is continue to cloud, an already muddy pool of water. Doesn't PROVE anything.
Let me ask you something. In all those years you did this work can you honestly tell me you didn't know of a significant number of racist or at best officers of questionable ethics and characters?
Why? Because he gave the camera the finger? What a bunch of bull!
There are people in the military, police officers as well as lawyers, judges ect that at one time took a picture that made them look differently in the light of who they actaully are.
If I took a picture of me doing the monkey dance with a cow is that a reason to be shoot in cold blood?
That photo has already been proven to be a fake. It belongs to a kid in Atlanta not to Trayvon.
lol, Zimmerman looks bad enough without liberal media alterations, but they want to exploit Trayvon death to repeal 2nd amendment, cause strife/ratings etcs
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NBC alters 911 call to make Zimmerman appear racist
