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There was a time in America's history when a statement the Marine allegedly made would be considered Treason - a crime punishable by death. He will be discharges post haste because he cannot be trusted to follow orders.
Members of the US Armed Forces may not pick and chose which order they will or will not follow. It makes no difference who gave the order. Those who do not carry out an order given by a superior are in deep trouble. The military court is not civilian or even particularly civil.
It is done deal; he's out with a DD, and if he is lucky he won't go to Leavenworth for a vacation. He doth protesteth once too often and he is in more trouble than he can imagine. .
There was a time in America's history when a statement the Marine allegedly made would be considered Treason - a crime punishable by death. He will be discharges post haste because he cannot be trusted to follow orders.
Members of the US Armed Forces may not pick and chose which order they will or will not follow. It makes no difference who gave the order. Those who do not carry out an order given by a superior are in deep trouble. The military court is not civilian or even particularly civil.
It is done deal; he's out with a DD, and if he is lucky he won't go to Leavenworth for a vacation. He doth protesteth once too often and he is in more trouble than he can imagine. .
You've got what it takes to be charged with "treason" seriously twisted.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
He could be charged with other crimes but never "treason".
I remember when Bush was in office if a member of the armed forces spoke out against the war, the right viewed them as traitors. I remember when 2 Americans wore anti-bush t-shirts to a Bush rally and were arrested. Now we have a marine who is breaking the marine code of ethics and the right is embracing him as a hero. Talk about hypocrisy.
Google remembers, too. And they've gotten an $80,000 settlement.
See?
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Nicole and Jeff Rank were arrested on Independence Day, 2004, for wearing anti-Bush T-shirts. They were on the grounds of the capitol in Charleston, West Virginia, where Bush was giving a speech.
In the months before the 2004 election, dozens of people across the nation were banished from or arrested at Bush political rallies, some for heckling the president, others simply for holding signs or wearing clothing that expressed opposition to the war and administration policies.
Similar things have happened at official, taxpayer-funded, presidential visits, before and after the election. Some targeted by security have been escorted from events, while others have been arrested and charged with misdemeanors that were later dropped by local prosecutors.
Members of the US Armed Forces may not pick and chose which order they will or will not follow. It makes no difference who gave the order.
Correct.
That is also why military members (in some branches, anyway) are not supposed to fraternize socially with those who outrank, them.
If they get "too comfortable" it is thought they may not obey orders from that person of higher rank when it counts.
This is funny, you do realize that if these people were in the military, they cannot sue the government.....so, for them to get a settlement, they could not have been in the military.
You anti-military people need to read up before you post....
So, we are just going to remember what you said....
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I remember when Bush was in office if a member of the armed forces spoke out against the war,
Oh, and your second link, those 55 year old teachers, when where they in the military?
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the two 55-year-old teachers reckoned the time was ripe to voice their simmering discontent with the administration's policies.
I remember when Bush was in office if a member of the armed forces spoke out against the war, the right viewed them as traitors. I remember when 2 Americans wore anti-bush t-shirts to a Bush rally and were arrested. Now we have a marine who is breaking the marine code of ethics and the right is embracing him as a hero. Talk about hypocrisy.
You need to take off those rose-colored glasses you are obviously wearing. They are making you see only what you want to see.
It has always been a violation of the UCMJ to use "contemptuous words" or to bring "discredit" upon the armed forces. The history behind the law goes back to before our Revolution. The only people "embracing" this idiot as a "hero" are the ACLU and moron Democrats that have never served in the military.
This is funny, you do realize that if these people were in the military, they cannot sue the government.....so, for them to get a settlement, they could not have been in the military.
You anti-military people need to read up before you post....
So, we are just going to remember what you said....
Oh, and your second link, those 55 year old teachers, when where they in the military?
The quotes are from your links.....
Next.............
Firstly, I am not anti-military. I have family members who are/were in the military (Air Force and Navy).
Secondly, I was responding to trihiker's second sentence:
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I remember when 2 Americans wore anti-bush t-shirts to a Bush rally and were arrested.
Nowhere does it say that those two were military. However, they were indeed arrested for wearing tshirts (freedom of speech, anyone?) that expressed a view contrary to the event they were attending.
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