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Old 04-30-2012, 07:20 PM
 
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He was told by the 911 dispatcher not to pursue the kid, he did anyway. He put himself in that situation, and a 17 year old kid died because of it.
The situation in a nutshell.
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:31 PM
 
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Anybody being beaten can respond with deadly force if they think its needed. Theres a big difference between defending yourself AFTER an attack has been made on your person and going on the offensive before violence is commited on your person.
Zimmerman showed no signs (in the police video) of being "beaten."

If there was an "attack," it was caused by Zimmerman's unwarranted stalking of Trayvon, which justifiably scared the sh*t out of him.
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:34 PM
 
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The use of "kid" and "child" in this situation is disingenuous. It's just as disingenuous as when the media profiled TM as being a 13 year old with a Hollister shirt on.

If accuracy is the issue, then technically he's an adolescent. But the media won't use that because it doesn't sound as sexy in the story line. Hence why some are starting to see that there is some bias to this.
I taught high school for 37 years. Every teacher in the school referred to their 15, 16, 17, & 18 year old students as "kids."
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Helena, Montana
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He was told by the 911 dispatcher not to pursue the kid, he did anyway.
It never amazes me how many times this lie is repeated. GZ was out of his car and running, and was THEN asked if he was following TM, was told "we don't need you to do that", and GZ replied "OK". No one on this board has any proof that GZ was not confronted by TM while heading back towards his vehicle, or that GZ continued to follow TM after saying "OK", but they continue to repeat over and over that GZ ignored the dispatcher and continued to pursue TM. I'm not saying he didn't continue, but I haven't seen any evidence come out that disproves GZ's statement to police. In fact, there's much more evidence to support his statement than not. The prosecutor better hope she has a hell of a lot more evidence than the public has seen. Speculation is not sufficient to prove murder "beyond a reasonable doubt".
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Reality
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Zimmerman showed no signs (in the police video) of being "beaten."
I saw signs of a beating, he has head injuries in the police video.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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I saw signs of a beating, he has head injuries in the police video.
So he had signs of losing a fight he probably started.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:55 PM
 
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So he had signs of losing a fight he probably started.
Trayvon Martin is still dead and George Zimmerman will likely walk out of jail a free man after successfully defending himself against a violent attacker... that doesn't sound like any kind of "losing a fight" I've ever heard of before.
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:24 AM
 
Location: 77441
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Trayvon Martin is still dead and George Zimmerman will likely walk out of jail a free man after successfully defending himself against a violent attacker... that doesn't sound like any kind of "losing a fight" I've ever heard of before.


Not to mention he'll be a rich man when hes thru suing everyone involved.


plus, when hes aquitted, the state will have to pick up his $1,000,000+ defense bill...
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:48 AM
 
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Trayvon Martin is still dead and George Zimmerman will likely walk out of jail a free man after successfully defending himself against a violent attacker... that doesn't sound like any kind of "losing a fight" I've ever heard of before.
You're over-confident that the judge has more guts and is less political than Corey and the judge who ok'd the arrest on murder 2. If this gets to a jury, no way will he be acquitted on all counts. I'll be shocked if he doesn't go to prison.
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:40 AM
 
Location: North America
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It never amazes me how many times this lie is repeated. GZ was out of his car and running, and was THEN asked if he was following TM, was told "we don't need you to do that", and GZ replied "OK". No one on this board has any proof that GZ was not confronted by TM while heading back towards his vehicle, or that GZ continued to follow TM after saying "OK", but they continue to repeat over and over that GZ ignored the dispatcher and continued to pursue TM. I'm not saying he didn't continue, but I haven't seen any evidence come out that disproves GZ's statement to police. In fact, there's much more evidence to support his statement than not. The prosecutor better hope she has a hell of a lot more evidence than the public has seen. Speculation is not sufficient to prove murder "beyond a reasonable doubt".

Lie? Don't think so. Read the probable cause affidavit.

http://thetallahasseeo.files.wordpre...-zimmerman.pdf
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