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Old 05-05-2012, 05:34 PM
 
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Perhaps you didn't read the chart. As of July 2011, Obama added $1.44 trillion dollars. Bush Jr added $5.07 trillion dollars.
Yes well Obama has done MORE DAMAGE TO THIS COUNTRY than any other president since they began!!
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Old 05-05-2012, 05:37 PM
 
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Default Childish finger pointing..."It wasn't me!!!"

Is this nonsense going to go on forever?

Obama has been in office long enough to have changed almost everything...especially with the Democrats holding the power for a good period of time WITH HIM IN OFFICE.

Why didn't he simply pull all the troops out, and bring them all home?...That would have saved quite a bit...

...Or was that a poor option?...And not because Bush got us involved..

This is the problem with Obama and his supporters - they cannot take responsibility.

And please..Do not start that BS about "Obama was the one to kill Bin Laden"...Anyone over 18 years of age would have said "Go ahead"...that was a no brainer...And that was the extent of his participation.

Saying otherwise is an insult to the military people that sacrificed their lives for the opportunity.
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Old 05-05-2012, 05:39 PM
 
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Bush Jr. caused the deficit crisis,>>>> and obama is exponentinally$$$$$$$ adding to bush jr's deficit.
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Old 05-05-2012, 05:40 PM
 
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Bush added $4-5 Trillion over 8 years. Obama has added $5 Trillion in 3 1/2 years after having said how unpatriotic it was to add $5 trillion with Bush in charge.

The largest Bush deficit was $458 BILLION.

Obama is running $1.5 TRILLION deficits 3 years running.
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Old 05-05-2012, 05:53 PM
 
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Many believe that Obama was the cause for the deficit crisis. WRONG. Uneducated or uninformed believe Obama was the cause.
You seriously don't have a clue how stupid that sounds. It's all *******s have. Try to marginalize those who know better.

Honey..........you're the one who is uneducated and uninformed. It really isn't rocket science.

And you don't have a clue how old your mantra is.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. It's Bush's fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 05-05-2012, 06:24 PM
 
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Right on cue here come the right wingers blaming Obama with the exact same programmed right wing talking points.

How about some facts such as

Clinton took years of disastrous GOP policies, to turn them around to create the biggest surplus in US history. We were well on our way to being debt free, but W and the GOP threw that in the trash and went back to the epically failed "trickle down" economics that turned the biggest surplus into the biggest deficit. It takes some real idiots to pull that one off, and those idiots were W and the GOP.

Let's also not forget if it wasn't for W and the GOP completely destroying the nation and sending it near the brink of total collapse, Obama never would have needed to propose the stimulus bill in the first place.

Essentially it's like W and the republicans went on a careless joyride in the new car, crashed into a tree, tossed Obama the keys, ran off, and then are blaming Obama for having to pay to have it fixed.


Something has been fixed?


Bush didn't sign NAFTA, the 2000 China Trade Act, CFMA or GLBA.

He didn't repeal Glass-Steigall or mandate the GSEs buy CRA subprime home loans that later became the toxic elements in the unregulated CDOs behind the subprime meltdown.

He didn't take the advice of Robert Rubin and Larry Summers to leave credit default swaps free of regulation.


On Monday President Clinton announced an "all-out" campaign to lobby Congress to pass permanent most-favored-nation status for China. The lobbying will be rough, with a fully mobilized American business community working as the iron fist inside the administration's velvet glove. The same day Clinton kicked off his new campaign, U.S. Chamber of Commerce President Thomas Donohue warned, on cue, that members of Congress who oppose permanent trade status for China "will find themselves in an unhappy situation with the business community."

Clinton's China Two-Step - Carnegie Endowment for International Peace

“On derivatives, yeah I think they were wrong and I think I was wrong to take [their advice] because the argument on derivatives was that these things are expensive and sophisticated and only a handful of investors will buy them and they don’t need any extra protection, and any extra transparency. The money they’re putting up guarantees them transparency,†Clinton told me.

Clinton: I Was Wrong to Listen to Wrong Advice Against Regulating Derivatives* - Political Punch

Clinton vowed to veto the Senate version of the bill unless it was re-written to include "requirements that banks make loans to minorities, farmers, and others who have had little access to credit." The new version passed 90-8 in the Senate, passed the House, and Clinton signed it into law. Clinton's required reworking of the bill should be studied closely to see what role, if any, it played in illegal, often racist, subprime loans at higher rates than Caucasian borrowers were offered.

ICKY PEOPLE: Phil Gramm, Bill Clinton Key Culprits in Subprime Meltdown




YouTube - President Bill Clinton - Remarks on the Signing of NAFTA
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Old 05-05-2012, 06:38 PM
 
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Bush added $4-5 Trillion over 8 years. Obama has added $5 Trillion in 3 1/2 years after having said how unpatriotic it was to add $5 trillion with Bush in charge.

The largest Bush deficit was $458 BILLION.

Obama is running $1.5 TRILLION deficits 3 years running.


Typical RWNJ bringing reason and facts into the conversation.

Did you even follow the link provided by the OP?

How can you expect to outsource your thought process the way liberals do if you don't follow the links?
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Old 05-05-2012, 06:38 PM
 
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Many believe that Obama was the cause for the deficit crisis. WRONG. Uneducated or uninformed believe Obama was the cause. Actually, Bush Jr. is to blame. First, with the spending for the wars in Afghanistan and in Iraq. Then, with all that bailout money to banks and private investors. When Bush Jr. started his presidency, the deficit was at 5 trillion, thanks to Reagan. After Bush Jr. left office, out deficit was at 12 trillion. Then, Obama had to spend money to help clean up the mess that Bush Jr. made.
Don't forget the Bush Jr. tax cuts that dug the economy deeper into debt. Crucial element, that.
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Old 05-05-2012, 06:40 PM
 
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Many believe that Obama was the cause for the deficit crisis. WRONG. Uneducated or uninformed believe Obama was the cause. Actually, Bush Jr. is to blame. First, with the spending for the wars in Afghanistan and in Iraq. Then, with all that bailout money to banks and private investors. When Bush Jr. started his presidency, the deficit was at 5 trillion, thanks to Reagan. After Bush Jr. left office, out deficit was at 12 trillion. Then, Obama had to spend money to help clean up the mess that Bush Jr. made.

If you think I'm baloney, please read this:

Obama Didn't Create Today's Budget Deficit Problem. Bush Did. | The New Republic
Nor did Obama create today's Army, or Seal Teams.
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Old 05-05-2012, 06:41 PM
 
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Bush added $4-5 Trillion over 8 years. Obama has added $5 Trillion in 3 1/2 years after having said how unpatriotic it was to add $5 trillion with Bush in charge.

The largest Bush deficit was $458 BILLION.

Obama is running $1.5 TRILLION deficits 3 years running.
NEWS FLASH: if Bush Jr. hadn't screwed up so bad, Obama wouldn't have had to spend money on economic stimulus. If Bush Jr. hadn't started wars, Obama wouldn't have been stuck with winding them down.
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