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Yeah, my kid is a "Millenial". He lives in LA and whines about not being able to find a job.
I think it has more to do with upbringing than with him being a "millenial". Virtually every millenial in my family has done superbly in building a career and especially compared to the parents and grand parents (who did have it easier).
Again, we see more boomers who are simply out of touch.
Just how is that, exactly? That booming 1970's economy made it crazy easy to live? Or that college grads in 1980 walked straight into mid-range salaries with their BA degrees in Political Science or Communications in hand?
Maybe those 6 bedroom, 5000 sq ft houses with 3 car garages were easily affordable at 18% interest with no credit history when mom and dad were in their 20's?
Tell me, because I'm an X-Yer and I don't get how it was any easier back then... especially considering the real boom was in the 50's, when they were all riding tricycles through shiny new suburban developments.
I think it has more to do with upbringing than with him being a "millenial". Virtually every millenial in my family has done superbly in building a career and especially compared to the parents and grand parents (who did have it easier).
I really just feel that people are missing the big picture. We are all dependent upon each other and when the system is broken, the system is broken.
As an owner, I know that I'm dependent upon my suppliers, taxes, competition, employees, customers, etc to run my business successfully. Even as a business owner, almost more-so, I recognize that I am still dependent upon the rest of the population.
We are simply not creating enough jobs. That is the real issue. Yet still, people blame our current issues on "laziness". I've never heard such an asanine argument in my life.
We've outsourced a ton of our manufacturing jobs while machines have replaced a lot of the need for manual labor. We're thriving off of web based industries which don't require nearly the amount of labor as past businesses. On top of that, we're overinflating our prices and not making the right moves to create new jobs.
The problem is much bigger than my generation simply being "lazy".
Just how is that, exactly? That booming 1970's economy made it crazy easy to live? Or that college grads in 1980 walked straight into mid-range salaries with their BA degrees in Political Science or Communications in hand?
Maybe those 6 bedroom, 5000 sq ft houses with 3 car garages were easily affordable at 18% interest with no credit history when mom and dad were in their 20's?
Tell me, because I'm an X-Yer and I don't get how it was any easier back then... especially considering the real boom was in the 50's, when they were all riding tricycles through shiny new suburban developments.
Some boomers would smack lazy, whiny-assed punks like you,...and not stop to give it a second thought. There are loads of opportunities out there, but your generation is too busy pounding on your keyboards to even recognize them.
Nobody owes you anything, so make your own way,....or vote for Obama and hope he penalizes the successful enough to pay for your freebie generation.
They didn't have it easier. It's always been hard to get started in life, unless you get a juicy inheritance anyway.
The difference is boomers were willing to start at the bottom and work their way up. They had high expectations, but expected to start working for peanuts and living in a dump as they slogged their way up the ladder. Millenials say 'eff that and choose to live in their parent's basements and play for an extra decade instead.
Millenials seem to think they are entititled to their boomer parent's lifestyle from the outset and forget it took their parents 30 years or so of hard work to get where they are today.
For example,
My boomer parents lived in a roach motel when they first got married in their early 20's... my dad worked as a cook for years. When he moved up to manager, they bought their first home... a teenie-tiny 3 bed 1 bath cinderblock house on the edge of Phoenix AZ and continued to work their way up over the years. Now they live in a very nice 4500 sq foot mini-mansion that is all paid off, my dad owns a successful business and they are millionaires.
Here's an object lesson for why is is NOT impossible for Millenials to build lives at least as good as their boomer parents have:
I followed in mom and dad's footsteps... got married young, started working as a janitor and lived in a couple of cheapo crappy apartments before starting work in government and getting my first house. Now I'm in my second house, a very nice historic bungalow in a good part of town that I restored myself. I'm 34 now, have 3 kids ages 4-12, put myself through college, drive new cars and even though it's still hard, I truly do have a decent life. I did it all on my own too; mom and dad haven't paid for any of it!
Meanwhile, most of my friends played and partied through their 20's and are just getting married and/or having kids and trying to estabish their own households. They whine about how hard it is; some have lost their first houses through forclosures and are completely bogged down in debt.
I'm sick of them crying to me about it... they act all jealous about my life, think I'm lucky or maybe made a pact with the devil to be so comfy while they aren't. But the only real difference is that I started small and had a 10 year head-start on them (which turns out ot be a lot!), while they started late and tried to build a upscale lifestyle from scratch on credit.
While they were playing, I was working... and when they are still struggling with a young family in midlife, my kids will all be raised, my house paid off and I'll be in my prime income earning years. It's gonna be "nice".
Thank you mom and dad for not raising me stupid!
Wow older then you in my fifties, but i see so much of my life in your post. Husband and i got married very young also. We believed in hard work and that some day it will pay off. Sometimes while young working two and three jobs at a time. Also doing janitorial work in the evening at Montesorri Schools back then. I also worked housecleaning.
We had our children soon after marriage. Two children in two years. That was a strain. But again we did what we had to, to better our lives, ourselves, no help.
We had many hardships along the way, but gosh dang it we worked our way out of them, never asking anyone for help, just ourselves.
We were the same as you, while our friends younger also, were too busy playing and partying, we were putting in motion, where we wanted to be in life, and to give to our children, a good life.
I understand what you mean of jealously, no one should be put down ever because of hard work and devoted determination, for that of a better life.
We now have a very good life, have a mini mansion all on one story, beautiful home, rentals, nice cars, but the one thing that is more important then all that combine, is my family. And knowing that we have instilled into them, the same principles, things can be acomplished once you put your mind into it. I have one Son, who has definitely made it, and made it big. And also did it without our help, though we would of gladly helped him, he had scholarships, and did it all on his own.
If you have a dream, no matter if it seems unreal, go after it.
u r right boomers had the good life. no comparison. now having said that ------ compare yourself to greatest generation, people that survived depression as small children and served involuntarily in an all out war WWII --and now u may complain about how rough u have it. plenty of trade jobs out there buddy, but u believe its not good enough for you and that is your weak area, inflated sense of self worth, entitlement & victim complex. instead of sitting on your heels and whining about your joblessness u should be fighting (and getting beat up) like the french kids who are supporting the unions against the sunamie of immigrants trying to snap up their jobs. but u see this sunamie of mexican people as your friend and hate unions. until u correct that-the nightmare will not stop. pepe is probably mowing the lawn right now and dad is paying him while u sit on the couch and complain about the job market.
think about learning a trade, america does not need 20 million more managers. this is your fight son, not mine if u want a job u r guna have to go out and fight for it. stop supporting the people that want u buried.
Last edited by Huckleberry3911948; 05-10-2012 at 12:26 PM..
Work for what? There aren't any jobs out there to move us up the Social ladder.
Boomers had opportunities. Most jobs these days don't pay much to even survive.
Your probably anti-union also............its your own fault
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