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Old 05-16-2012, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Point Hope Alaska
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Originally Posted by 70Ford
Very well said. Except for that Christian part. Actually, that kind of was the whole part. Hrmmm..............
Our Founding Fathers Were NOT Christians


Ahem -!

The Prayer of Thomas Jefferson @ the first continental Congress in 1774 He said these words.

I guess by your presumption(s) he is LYING? Is he being sarcastic ??

For separation of Church & State; Today the mainstream media and radical activists pervert his original meaning of what he wrote in the constitution.

The organization cites Thomas Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists as evidence that the Founding Fathers intended to keep religion out of government. But they don’t mention the opening prayer of the very first Continental Congress in 1774.

That includes, in part:

“O Lord our Heavenly Father, high and mighty King of kings, and Lord of lords, who dost from thy throne behold all the dwellers on earth and reignest with power supreme and uncontrolled over all the Kingdoms, Empires and Governments; look down in mercy, we beseech Thee, on these our American States, who have fled to Thee from the rod of the oppressor and thrown themselves on Thy gracious protection, desiring to be henceforth dependent only on Thee. To Thee have they appealed for the righteousness of their cause; to Thee do they now look up for that countenance and support, which Thou alone canst give. Take them, therefore, Heavenly Father, under Thy nurturing care; give them wisdom in Council and valor in the field; defeat the malicious designs of our cruel adversaries; convince them of the unrighteousness of their Cause and if they persist in their sanguinary purposes, of own unerring justice, sounding in their hearts, constrain them to drop the weapons of war from their unnerved hands in the day of battle! Be Thou present, O God of wisdom, and direct the councils of this honorable assembly; enable them to settle things on the best and surest foundation. That the scene of blood may be speedily closed; that order, harmony and peace may be effectually restored, and truth and justice, religion and piety, prevail and flourish amongst the people. Preserve the health of their bodies and vigor of their minds; shower down on them and the millions they here represent, such temporal blessings as Thou seest expedient for them in this world and crown them with everlasting glory in the world to come. All this we ask in the name and through the merits of Jesus Christ, Thy Son and our Savior. Amen.”


He wasn't a Christian ??- Then what was he?
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:32 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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There will be gay marriage here in America in a few generations as well...mark my words.

The old people who came from a generation with very bigoted, preconceived notions around this will die off soon. More of the younger ones will be more open to it, having grown up in a different and move diverse environment. That's why no one bats an eye today about the concept of women working in the professional world and black and white people marrying - things that older generations would have found scandalous. This is how social progress works.
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:41 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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One view is based on intolerance, willful ignorance and proven misinformation from propaganda sources.
Which propaganda sources might those be?
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:55 AM
 
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Stop " and think for a moment" why are All Presidents Sworned In On A
Bible...If America Is ( Not A Christian Nation ).
just for the record you're allowed to use a jewish bible or a koran .

both of those 2 religions are against gay "rights".
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:15 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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just for the record you're allowed to use a jewish bible or a koran .

both of those 2 religions are against gay "rights".
Interesting. One of the few things all three agree on,
(the 'Christian' Bible was referenced earlier).
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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Yup. Gay marriage is spreading like wild fire in all the muslim countries.
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Old 05-17-2012, 11:33 AM
 
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Interesting. One of the few things all three agree on,
(the 'Christian' Bible was referenced earlier).
Christian nation was.
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Utah
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I only have one question. Why hasn't the moderator shut this thread down yet?
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