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Old 05-25-2012, 08:28 AM
 
Location: In a place with little freedom (aka USA)
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We as americans need to stop using the word HERO so loosely. This is not a RANT but simply a REALITY CHECK.

Why is every single person that serves in the military automaticaly called a "hero"?

Not every soldier is a hero, there are many who only do desk jobs or telecom or simple stuff. Some hide behind desks watching monitors or controlling remote vehicles. Some even hide inside armored vehicles all the time, that is no braver and no different than a driver of a golfball picker.

A hero is someone who does something brave BUT it has to be something OUT of their element.


Forget about the military for a second, let's go to everyday LIFE. For example, a fire fighter saving someone from a burning building is NOT a hero. Why? Because that is what they trained to do and gained expertise on to do the job easy, like second nature. A hero would be for example a deli worker (with NO training in rescue) saving someone from a fire.

A hero would be someone stopping an act of violence or a crime with NO training whatsoever.

A hero is someone who goes above and beyond the call of duty, not just because they showed up or put in their time.


We americans respect the soldiers, but not all of them. Only the REAL heros which is less than 1%. (and please refrain from personal attacks, this is the truth and supposedly we are free to speak it right? And don't say a soldier gave us this freedom because its BS).

This is by no means an anti-military statement, it is just a political correctness REVERSAL that is much needed.

With that said, Happy Memorial Day weekend!
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Old 05-25-2012, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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You don't think the Army guy who got out after one-term without leaving the country, but collects a monthly life-time check for sleep apnea is not a hero?
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Old 05-25-2012, 08:41 AM
 
Location: In a place with little freedom (aka USA)
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You don't think the Army guy who got out after one-term without leaving the country, but collects a monthly life-time check for sleep apnea is not a hero?
Far from it and believe me, many of us posters here are FAR BETTER heroes. Partly because we speak out on sensitive issues and we help those that just don't get it.
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Old 05-25-2012, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Fuquay-Varina
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Not everyone is called a hero, but they do all deserve our respect. Without the behind the scenes personnel, the soldiers, marines, firefighters, etc would not be nearly as effective. To use your example, if someone rushes into a burning building, regardless of training background, how can that not be heroic? You can train someone for years, but if that will is not inside of them to risk their own life when called upon, the training means nothing.
A soldier DID give you the freedom to state your opinions. Ask England as I am sure they remember even if you seem to have forgotten. You can certainly make the argument we get involved in conflicts that are really not our business, but do not think for a second our freedoms would remain if we have a weak military and/or never faced off against tyranny in 1776.
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Old 05-25-2012, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Originally Posted by Negotiator75 View Post
We as americans need to stop using the word HERO so loosely. This is not a RANT but simply a REALITY CHECK.

Why is every single person that serves in the military automaticaly called a "hero"?

Not every soldier is a hero, there are many who only do desk jobs or telecom or simple stuff. Some hide behind desks watching monitors or controlling remote vehicles. Some even hide inside armored vehicles all the time, that is no braver and no different than a driver of a golfball picker.

A hero is someone who does something brave BUT it has to be something OUT of their element.


Forget about the military for a second, let's go to everyday LIFE. For example, a fire fighter saving someone from a burning building is NOT a hero. Why? Because that is what they trained to do and gained expertise on to do the job easy, like second nature. A hero would be for example a deli worker (with NO training in rescue) saving someone from a fire.

A hero would be someone stopping an act of violence or a crime with NO training whatsoever.

A hero is someone who goes above and beyond the call of duty, not just because they showed up or put in their time.


We americans respect the soldiers, but not all of them. Only the REAL heros which is less than 1%. (and please refrain from personal attacks, this is the truth and supposedly we are free to speak it right? And don't say a soldier gave us this freedom because its BS).

This is by no means an anti-military statement, it is just a political correctness REVERSAL that is much needed.

With that said, Happy Memorial Day weekend!
You are so blatantly anti-military - no one even has to say it. I just did.
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Old 05-25-2012, 09:11 AM
 
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It always bothered me to call the victims on 911 a hero.. They'd only be a hero if they knew the outcome but bothered to do what they did that day.. Clearly they didnt, and most likely had they, they probably would have made different choices.

Thats not a hero..
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Old 05-25-2012, 09:49 AM
 
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I actually agree with the premise of the OP. I also never understand why someone who is in the military is automatically assumed to be a hero. If that were the case half of my family are heroes, pretty much every guy in my family has been in some branch of the military. I thought about joining but decided against it and at least a quarter of all my aunts and girl cousins have been or are in the military as well. I also have a few uncles who are police officer and two uncles who are firefighters. To me they are just doing their jobs and I do have a deep respect for military and firefighters and even police officers but I don't see all of them as heroes just because of where they work.
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Old 05-25-2012, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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It always bothered me to call the victims on 911 a hero.. They'd only be a hero if they knew the outcome but bothered to do what they did that day.. Clearly they didnt, and most likely had they, they probably would have made different choices.

Thats not a hero..
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A hero would be someone stopping an act of violence or a crime with NO training whatsoever.
Like certain Americans who flew on particular aircraft on 9/11/01.
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:21 AM
 
Location: In a place with little freedom (aka USA)
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You are so blatantly anti-military - no one even has to say it. I just did.
It might appear that way, but I am not. I assure you. It is only because memorial day is coming up and we all have to tolerate the media saying BS like "Memorial day is coming, how will you honor the heroes".

Nothing bad intended other than to raise awareness on this politically INCORRECT buzzword. I don't hate the damn military.
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Old 05-25-2012, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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It might appear that way, but I am not. I assure you. It is only because memorial day is coming up and we all have to tolerate the media saying BS like "Memorial day is coming, how will you honor the heroes".

Nothing bad intended other than to raise awareness on this politically INCORRECT buzzword. I don't hate the damn military.
OK - I will take your word for it - but do you have to use the word "damn" in reference to the military?
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