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Old 05-28-2012, 12:20 PM
 
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Old 05-28-2012, 12:22 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Default ugh.

I read this in the daily news here in NY, And they described it in detail. I wish I skipped the paper this morning.
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Old 05-28-2012, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Who is "the church" - and how can anyone go against it?

I will answer my own question. The entire body of the Christian faith is the church. There is no central authority except for our Lord, Jesus Christ. Christians disagree about many things - but most of the issues debated are non-essential. Transubstantiation is one of those. The medieval and Rennaissance church leaders were entangled with the European monarchs who wished to use the church to control the people. Denying transubstantiation at that time was a crime against the state - not the church. The ecclesiastical courts would try the "heretics" and then hand them over to the monarch for execution. I wrote a paper about the mess caused by the entanglement of church and state during the medieval period. People who scream "separation of church and state" when trying to keep religious beliefs from influencing public policy today in the United States really do not understand what truly constitutes church/state entanglement.

I can say that the Catholic belief in transubstantiation is wrong because it contradicts the words of Jesus Christ. Belief in transubstantiation does not matter - remembering Jesus through the act of eating the communion meal does - and most importantly - accepting Jesus as Lord, confessing ones sins - and living for Him.
You mean like what Jesus said here:For Jesus said, “If you do not eat the flesh of the Son of Man, and drink his blood, you will not have life in you.” (John 6:53)
and again: “He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood lives in me and I in him” (John 6:56).
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Old 05-28-2012, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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You mean like what Jesus said here:For Jesus said, “If you do not eat the flesh of the Son of Man, and drink his blood, you will not have life in you.” (John 6:53)
and again: “He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood lives in me and I in him” (John 6:56).
Do some research on transubstantiation and then get back to me. It is obvious that you are not interested in actually learning anything and just want to play games by setting Christian beliefs against each other. I have already said that it will not work. Go study.
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Old 05-28-2012, 12:29 PM
 
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Do some research on transubstantiation and then get back to me. It is obvious that you are not interested in actually learning anything and just want to play games by setting Christian beliefs against each other. I have already said that it will not work. Go study.
I just quoted Jesus in the bible. HIS words.
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Old 05-28-2012, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I just quoted Jesus in the bible. HIS words.
So, are you saying that you a Catholic?
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Old 05-28-2012, 12:41 PM
 
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Embrace that this is the start of the Zombie Apocolypse...the sooner you do, the better chance you survive
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Old 05-28-2012, 12:42 PM
 
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So, are you saying that you a Catholic?
For Jesus said, “If you do not eat the flesh of the Son of Man, and drink his blood, you will not have life in you.” (John 6:53)
and again: “He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood lives in me and I in him” (John 6:56).
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Old 05-28-2012, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Embrace that this is the start of the Zombie Apocolypse...the sooner you do, the better chance you survive
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Old 05-28-2012, 12:46 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Your link isn't working............ not sure I really want to know
Best post I've seen in awhile.
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