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Old 05-28-2012, 12:29 PM
 
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Why don't you explain to us when right wing "give everything to the rich" fiscal policies have ever worked. How is racking up massive debt and spending like maniacs a good thing?
Your lack of knowledge doesn't deserve a response but, i will give a couple.

Come back with some facts.

Hint, The Bush tax cuts gave ALL taxpayers a cut.

Please tell us Oh enlightened one, who has racked up the biggest debt?

You may want to check out the current spending by the current administrations. if you have the nerve.

The dems controlled all 3 branches of the gov't and managed to get Obama Care passed. How much in spending cuts did they get done?
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Old 05-28-2012, 12:32 PM
 
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Now they are coming back for round 2 of this fight. Obama got stomped in round 1. The Republicans extended ALL the Bush tax cuts and Obama got nada, nothing, zero, zilch in return. Now the Democrats and Obama are already backing away from the Republicans again. Obama once threatend a VETO if the tax cuts were extended for anybody over $250,000 a year. Now he backed off to a million a year. The Republicans have again made it clear they will accept nothing less than a full retreat. Obama should find some spine and use his veto stamp and let all the tax cuts die if the Republicans do that. I don't think he will because Obama is spineless and gutless but he should.
Heck, I agree.
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Old 05-28-2012, 12:33 PM
 
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Very true, the nanny state for the richest of the rich, big oil, and the large corporations are destroying the nation. The GOP free-for-all to their cronies must be stopped.
It is pathetic that you ignore the dems ties to big oil and large corporations and their cronies.
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:25 PM
 
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Your lack of knowledge doesn't deserve a response but, i will give a couple.

Come back with some facts.

Hint, The Bush tax cuts gave ALL taxpayers a cut.

Please tell us Oh enlightened one, who has racked up the biggest debt?

You may want to check out the current spending by the current administrations. if you have the nerve.

The dems controlled all 3 branches of the gov't and managed to get Obama Care passed. How much in spending cuts did they get done?
As usual, deflecting from the question. I asked you when have right wing "give everything to the rich" fiscal policies ever worked, you didn't answer and it's clear why because they have never worked.

You also have not answered on how these right wing policies that rack up massive debt and huge spending is a good thing,..

Though that's the brainwashed extreme right mentality, debt and destruction to the country = goooooooood
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:41 PM
 
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It absolutely does. You said that revenues didnt increase after tax cuts were passed, you were wrong. Revenues before the tax cuts are not the issue but a distraction because we were in a recession.

Why, because you believe the economy is stagnate and we live in a vacuum? Utterly ridiculous.

Then why did revenues GROW, and not shrink?

You've already been proven wrong when you said revenues didnt grow so your opinion on their need to be paid for is immaterial.

And you've already been proven wrong again, saying that revenues didnt climb, so if you dont know the truth on that, your opinion that they didnt stimulate the economy is worthless. Anti debt has nothing to do with increased revenues, its due to increased spending. I'd advise you to educate yourself on the difference if you are expected to be taken seriously on the topic.
You are ignoring the information before your eyes. After the Bush Tax cuts the line of revenue never approached the trend of where it was heading before the tax cuts.

Why would a graph from 2003-2007 be accurate when the tax cuts were enacted in 2001? We need to see what was going on before to judge their effect on revenue.
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:01 PM
 
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:19 PM
 
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It is going to be more detrimental in the long run if he extends them again. The country cannot afford them. If they are extended again, massive cuts to other programs including Social Security, Medicare and, yes, the military are going to be necessary in the future. And that will harm the country more.
If the Democrats and Obama hadn't been MASSIVELY increasing spending over the last 6 years maybe we wouldn't need massive cuts and tax increases.


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Bush slashed revenues while at the same time spending like a lunatic, only an idiot does that, and those idiots are the GOP and W.
And Obama spent vastly more than Bush did in his entire 8 year term and still continued to slash revenues. I guess that makes Obama and the Democrats who used to control Congress even more of a lunatic, or are you going to apply the typical liberal double standard to Obama and the Democrats?
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Old 05-29-2012, 12:02 AM
 
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It is going to be more detrimental in the long run if he extends them again. The country cannot afford them. If they are extended again, massive cuts to other programs including Social Security, Medicare and, yes, the military are going to be necessary in the future. And that will harm the country more.
The country can't afford the current well-spoken and clean squatter in the White House with his spending on entitlement programs. Might as well flush money down the toilet.

The tax cuts allow people to keep more money that they therefore might well spend, putting the money back into circulation.
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Old 05-29-2012, 12:05 AM
 
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If that was true then Bush's tax cuts for the rich should have created the most booming economy in US history. It did the exact opposite.
What tax cuts for the rich?

Did you not get a tax cut?

I did.

I want to keep it.
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Old 05-29-2012, 12:06 AM
 
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Wow look at the unemployment soaring on that graph caused by W and the GOP Though nice deflection, that doesn't answer the fact that if giving everything to the rich leads to a booming economy, under W and still today we should have the strongest economy in the nation's history.
And all that stimulus spending your hero squatting in the White did was.........what?

All I see it did was drive the deficit up.
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