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...but an anti-discrimination Bill passed in the year 2024 in the US or any other country says that they cannot discriminate against sexual orientation. Of course, it's their CHOICE, right? They have two options: an average hetero couple, very loving.etc, and a homosexual couple, equally loving and whatnot.
They choose the first couple, and the gay couple sues them for discrimination. The gay couple wins and gets custody of the child.
Could such a scenario be possible? Would it be an example of gay rights gone ga ga? I'm personally for gay rights in general, yet I admit not 100% - because I see that it can get overboard.
Would anyone agree with the above? Sounds crazy? Is it just 'conservative paranoia'? As I see it that's the way we're heading. While many gay people do just want the same rights, sometimes I get the feeling they're imposing themselves on the mainstream and pulling out the often repeated 'homophobia' card to those who don't agree with them. Many are militantly bulldozing their way through with their 'all or nothing' approach. Our society will change drastically.
Answer honestly...if you were that couple. How many of you would choose the gay couple? Think about it, this child will be with them for 18 years of his or her life. How many can truly say they would CHOOSE the gay couple as preferable?
I personally feel a child's biological parents are best for that child: not a knock on adoptive parents, many who are very loving, and even same-sex ones, but I just feel there could come a day when couples have less and less choice as 'rights' are imposed.
That depends if its an open, or closed adoption, and if the choice to determine who the next parent was done before, or after they gave up their parental rights.
If they already gave up parental rights to the state, then they lose any ability to choose the new parents (and in fact they wont evern know) and government agencies decide. If they are doing a private adoption, then they have every right to choose, and deny who the next parent will be.
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Originally Posted by pghquest
That depends if its an open, or closed adoption, and if the choice to determine who the next parent was done before, or after they gave up their parental rights.
If they already gave up parental rights to the state, then they lose any ability to choose the new parents (and in fact they wont evern know) and government agencies decide. If they are doing a private adoption, then they have every right to choose, and deny who the next parent will be.
While I think while the rights of parents will be indeed respected, what if the following scenario plays out.
Most parents who opt for 'closed' adoptions just aren't choosing the gay couples. What if sperm donors or surrogates aren't meeting the demand for children for gay families.
What if there's a backlash towards gay couples getting custody of the child through 'open adoption?' And what if people aren't really as open as they said they were when it wasn't their child?
How comfortable are most people with children being raised by same sex couples?
While I think while the rights of parents will be indeed respected, what if the following scenario plays out.
Most parents who opt for 'closed' adoptions just aren't choosing the gay couples. What if sperm donors or surrogates aren't meeting the demand for children for gay families.
What if there's a backlash towards gay couples getting custody of the child through 'open adoption?' And what if people aren't really as open as they said they were when it wasn't their child?
How comfortable are most people with children being raised by same sex couples?
Gay couples already adopt, albeit it, usually they adopt as single indiduals. There is no requirement to disclose that you're gay. I myself have adopted a child as a couple, and another child as a single individual, and as an unmarried individual, my sexual preference has never come up, and I never even met the parents, and they've never met me.
This argument seems to have lost it's validity already because it seems you're already biased that it's questionable for gay couples to even have adopted children in the first place.
Someone has already mentioned the law on adoptions before and after couples give up their parental rights, but I'll add this. Just remember it takes a straight couple to make a gay child.
Some will say this is sensationalism, but I can see this scenario being played out a lot in the future.
You see, your 'rights' infringe upon the rights of others. Both the right to an abortion and gay adoption affect children, the most vulnerable members of our society.
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This argument seems to have lost it's validity already because it seems you're already biased that it's questionable for gay couples to even have adopted children in the first place.
Someone has already mentioned the law on adoptions before and after couples give up their parental rights, but I'll add this. Just remember it takes a straight couple to make a gay child.
I don't doubt some gay parents can make excellent parents, I'm questioning the wider social ramifications of it.
Children learn from adults, especially their parents. Much of the natural behaviour of relationships between the genders is imprinted from a young age.
Yes, I know gay people never felt that was 'natural' for them even as a kid, but what if we have countless children who see their mothers or their two fathers relationship as the DEFAULT and hetero couples as the weird ones? Not to say they're not 'natural' per se, but put it this way. Children will realise there are gay couples, but if they're raised IN that environment it's different.
I'm not saying they will grow up homosexual, but for women/girls in particular, they can be impressionable and SOME women (not the 'true' lesbians) can be influenced into lesbian relationships. Just read about the thousands of stories of men who went lesbian because they had abusive relationships.
If a child grows up gay, that's one thing, that's who he is. But I think there is a potential for some of these children to be swayed...no matter what people say.
I also thing trying to force gay children/adults to become straight is just as bad, mind you.
This is indefensible - the homosexual activists don't care what the kid wants - it's all about the gay couple's "rights".
This is what happens when political correctness runs amok - real people get hurt.
Kids don't always know what is best for them.
I wouldn't be surprised if the gay couple got these children simpley because the heterosexual couples were holding out for an infant.....instead of a 4 and a 5 year old with baggage......did you ever think of that?
These men will probably turn out to be the best thing that could have ever happened to those children.
The grandparents both have serious health issues and are unlikely to have been able to care for those kids properly until their adulthood.....which would have caused the children to be uprooted again. Now the kids will have two loving parents who can see to their needs without interuption.....a secure, stable life.
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